Internet Horology Club 185
ILLINOIS 18 size HUNTER PRIVATE LABEL MARKED: "SOMMER & PIERIK"

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July 01, 2017, 23:19
Roger Stephens
ILLINOIS 18 size HUNTER PRIVATE LABEL MARKED: "SOMMER & PIERIK"
DIAL & MOVEMENT MARKED SOMMER & PIERIK 17 JEWELS,ADJUSTED,MODEL 2,S/N 1,182,217=1893,CHALMERS REGULATOR. ACCORDING TO THE ILLINOIS CD THIS S/N IS A
15 JEWEL MOVEMENT BUT IT IS CLEARLY A 17 J. MOVEMENT.
MAYBE SOMEONE CAN HELP CLEAR THE AIR ON THIS MATTER AND TELL ME WHAT I HAVE HERE.

Roger

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July 01, 2017, 23:20
Roger Stephens
CLOSE UP

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July 01, 2017, 23:21
Roger Stephens
MOVEMENT
SOMMER & PIERIK

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July 12, 2017, 17:21
Harv Holcomb
Roger you have a 15 j. watch. An easy way to tell is by the center wheel. If it was jeweled it would be a 17 j. watch. Yours is not jeweled so it is a 15 j. watch.


Harv
July 12, 2017, 17:38
Roger Stephens
Thanks Harv,but the center wheel is jeweled. The
picture has a shadow there. Will post a better one.

Roger

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July 12, 2017, 17:56
Harv Holcomb
Thanks for the better picture Roger. The only way you will know for sure is to pull the dial and count the jewels. I have a 16 j. Columbus. We originally thought it was a 17 j. until I pulled the dial. The center wheel was not jeweled on that side. On these old watches you sometimes have to count the jewels to find what the correct count is. Many are listed as 13-17 and can fall within that count.


Harv
July 12, 2017, 22:57
Roger Stephens
Harv, I pulled the dial.

Roger

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July 13, 2017, 02:34
Harv Holcomb
Roger you have to pull the cannon pinion to see if the center wheel is jeweled.


Harv
July 31, 2017, 15:20
Kevin Hoffman
Looks like it is even marked 17 jewels , looks like a rare , make that MEGA-RARE ULTRA low production prototype illinois
August 01, 2017, 23:33
Roger Stephens
Kevin,it is marked 17 jewels. I doubt it is a rare
prototype. The Illinois records are not 100 % correct. Just confusing at times.

Roger
August 04, 2017, 19:27
Eugene Buffard
They where railroad watch inspectors.
August 04, 2017, 22:39
Roger Stephens
Thanks Eugene for that info. I thought that they were but could not find that information.Looking in all the wrong places I suppose.

Roger