Internet Horology Club 185
18-Size RRG Illinois Movement Variety Images -- YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED!
July 05, 2013, 23:36
Lorne Wasylishen18-Size RRG Illinois Movement Variety Images -- YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED!
I have to type all of this out so I can get my head around it. The chronology I will leave to you.
1. 24j Adjusted Temperature. 6 Positions Isochronism Double Roller
July 05, 2013, 23:38
Lorne Wasylishen2. 24J Adjusted Safety Pinion
Ed, I found another exactly like this but the font for everything except ADJUSTED is just a bit different. what's that about?
July 05, 2013, 23:39
Lorne Wasylishen3. 24J Adjusted
July 05, 2013, 23:43
Lorne Wasylishen4. 24J Adjusted D.R.
This is just a different image of the D.R. watch I posted earlier in this thread.
July 05, 2013, 23:50
Lorne Wasylishen1. 26J Adjusted Temperature. 6 Positions Double Roller
Tough to read this one but as yet have not found a better image.
July 06, 2013, 00:07
Lorne Wasylishen23. I can't stop I tell ya.
July 06, 2013, 12:38
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.Thanks a million Lorne, I can and will use all of those pics. I just have to stake out all the varieties, and then I can start dropping them in.

Best Regards,
Ed
July 06, 2013, 12:59
Lorne WasylishenYes, as you get them staked out I will have more of an idea what I am looking for.
So just to be clear, in the case of my 17J Bunn. It could be marked Safety Pinion and Adjusted or just Adjusted and these would be considered variations of that variety?
I actually started looking at the 17J but was finding more 24J and ended up on that track.
July 06, 2013, 14:55
Lorne Wasylishen!. 23 Ruby Jewels, Adjusted Temperature. 6 Positions Isochronism
Double Roller Jewelled Barrel
Bunn Special Springfield Ill.
July 06, 2013, 15:01
Lorne Wasylishen2. 23 Ruby Jewels, Adjusted Temperature. 6 Positions Isochronism
Double Roller
Bunn Special Springfield Ill.
July 06, 2013, 15:06
Lorne Wasylishen3. 23 Ruby Jewels, Adjusted Temperature. 6 Positions Isochronism
Double Roller Jewelled Barrel
Bunn Special Illinois Watch Co. Springfield
July 06, 2013, 15:13
Lorne Wasylishen4. 23 Ruby Jewels,Adjusted Temperature. 6 Positions Isochronism
Double Roller Jeweled Barrel
Bunn Special Illinois Watch Co. Springfield
July 06, 2013, 15:14
Lorne WasylishenLeave a space just in case.
I was checking things and realized two of the 23J are Hunting movements, I'll keep looking.
July 06, 2013, 21:03
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.Lorne,
Yes, in Variety 1 of the 24-jewel Bunn Special for instance, the primary marking has SAFETY PINION, and then that was dropped around movement no. = about 1.5 million, so it's kind of a sub-variety.
That D.R.-marked 24-jewel Bunn Special you found qualifies as a full-fledged variety in its own right, just as that same marking has its own variety in the 21-jewel Bunn Specials.
There are probably D.R.-marked 23-jewel Bunn Specials as well. But in 1985, Bill Meggers didn't know they existed, so they aren't in the book.
Best Regards,
Ed
July 07, 2013, 12:09
Lorne WasylishenEd, I am going to post what I have up till now and any gaps will have to be filled in later.
Can you recheck the 24J variety 1A, it just says Adjusted on the movement yet you show under Movements Marked: Temperature, 6 Positions, Isochronism.
July 07, 2013, 12:12
Lorne Wasylishen1. 17J variety 1
July 07, 2013, 12:14
Lorne Wasylishen2. 17J Variety 3
July 07, 2013, 12:17
Lorne Wasylishen3. I am not sure where this fits in so I'll call it Variety 3A
Is it the "Flag" variation of variety 3?
July 07, 2013, 12:19
Lorne Wasylishen4. 17J Variety 4
July 07, 2013, 12:21
Lorne Wasylishen5. 17J Variety 5.
I am still looking for 5 and 6 so will leave spaces her for them.
July 07, 2013, 12:22
Lorne Wasylishen6. 17J Variety 6
July 07, 2013, 12:24
Lorne Wasylishen7. 19J Variety 1
July 07, 2013, 12:24
Lorne Wasylishen8. 19J Variety 2
July 07, 2013, 12:26
Lorne Wasylishen9. 19J Variety 3
July 07, 2013, 12:27
Lorne Wasylishen10. 19J Variety 4
July 07, 2013, 12:33
Lorne Wasylishen11. 21j Variety 1
July 07, 2013, 12:39
Lorne Wasylishen12. 21J Variety 2 or 3??
I will stop here as this one is in the serial number range for your Variety 2 yet has the markings for your Variety 3
July 07, 2013, 13:03
Lorne Wasylishen13. 21J Variety 3
July 07, 2013, 13:04
Lorne Wasylishen14. 21J Variety 4
July 07, 2013, 13:05
Lorne Wasylishen15. 21J Variety 5
July 07, 2013, 13:05
Lorne Wasylishen16. 21J Variety 6
July 07, 2013, 13:06
Lorne Wasylishen17. 21J Variety 7
July 07, 2013, 13:06
Lorne Wasylishen18. 21J Variety 8