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Need info on Illinois

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October 08, 2009, 19:26
Edward Kitner
Need info on Illinois
Could someone give me the model and grade for this little Illinois I just received from Barry Hanstein? It does not match anything Shugart or Towsend have in their books.
Illinois Rockland, 12s, #3729320
19J

Thanks,
Ed

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October 08, 2009, 20:59
Tom Brown
Ed

12s 19J Model 3 P set Open face grade 406 1920, 92,140 made in 101 runs, Illinois watch co., Springfield 19 jewels adjusted 3 positions, jewels in raised gold settings, gold beveled & polished center wheel, patent regulator. Rockland must be a private label?

Tom
October 09, 2009, 00:05
Mike LaForest
ROCKLAND seems to be a private label variety. You can find the name on page 254 of the Ehrhardt & Meggers book.
Mike
October 09, 2009, 10:11
Edward Kitner
Tom,
The drawings in Shugart's book for the mdl 3 has 2 extra screws on the bbl bridge. This one looks like a mdl 5 without the motor bbl.
Could the drawings be that far off?
October 09, 2009, 11:30
Tom Brown
I think the drawing is wrong, I don't think those two screws are actually on a model 3.

Here is a link with other model 3 12s Illinois movements.

https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...281079233#7281079233

Tom
October 09, 2009, 17:41
Edward Kitner
Tom,
I believe you are right about the screws. A picture is more convincing than a drawing.
Thanks Tom and Mike, one of these days I will have to get a Ehrhardt & Meggers book.

Ed