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CANADIAN Private-Label Watches

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March 25, 2010, 20:26
Larry Buchan
CANADIAN Private-Label Watches
Nice D.A. Reesor private-label Tom, busy dial, Canadian case, and good looking movement. I'm envious Smile

Larry
March 25, 2010, 20:35
Tom Brown
Well that is a 1st for me, someone envious of something I have.

Actually Larry when I saw it on ebay, I thought I should do one or two things. Better buy it now before Larry sees it or better get a hold of Larry & tell him about it in case he wants it. But since I am so jealous of all your great watches I let greed win out.

I like it, I even carried it to work this afternoon.

Tom
March 29, 2010, 18:53
Larry Buchan
Thanks to David Abbe a Waltham with a Roman Numeral 24-hour dial from a jeweler named Thomas Lees in Hamilton, Ontario.


March 29, 2010, 18:59
Larry Buchan
Waltham 1883 PS Bartlett tu-tone movement.


April 12, 2010, 13:55
Mark Cross
Larry, how unusual was the use of the dial as seen on the watch in the post above? Specifically roman numerials on the outer chapter ring, and arabic numbers on the inner ring? Were they considered railroad approved in Canada?

I have an Elgin BWR 240 with this kind of dial, and wasn't familiar with this kind of application before until I saw these photos. The only differences between mine and the one above is mine is double sunk and has Elgin in the place where the private label appears.

Regards! Mark
April 13, 2010, 19:48
Larry Buchan
Mark:

I believe there must have been used extensively on Canadian railways, here is a picture of a Seth Thomas Canadian National Railways World comparison clock with the same type of dial.

Larry


April 13, 2010, 19:51
Larry Buchan
Back the clock with CNR markings, and my sons cat Gary checking it out.


April 13, 2010, 19:58
Larry Buchan
Here is another example of a Seth Thomas No. 17 Regulator, it came out of the Locomotive Engineers booking in room at the CPR Calgary (Alyth) Diesel shops, this clock remained in service until around 1986, and it must've fallen through the cracks, as it was not given a more modern aluminum silkscreened dial with the Arabic 24-hour dial that most of the systems comparison clocks were fitted out with in 1969.

Larry


April 14, 2010, 13:47
Mark Cross
Interesting! Well, COOL! I have a Canadian BWR railroad watch, and didn't even know it! Smile

I guess one can only wonder about the 'method to the madness' regarding using two different number styles on the outer and inner chapter rings. Confused

Anyway, thanks, Larry!

Regards! Mark
April 27, 2010, 21:45
Mike Rouse
Here is one I picked up today . A C STANNERS TORONTO , 1883 Waltham CPR . Got it from running an add on CRAIGSlist about buying old bottles and watches . It runs great , but will get a service at a later date . Mike


April 27, 2010, 21:46
Mike Rouse
And another shot


April 27, 2010, 21:46
Mike Rouse
one more


April 27, 2010, 21:46
Mike Rouse
close up


April 27, 2010, 21:47
Mike Rouse
final shot .


April 29, 2010, 15:21
Larry Buchan
Nice 1883 CPR Waltham Mike, would like to see a picture of the dial.

Larry
May 04, 2010, 12:57
Mike Rouse
Larry , here is a shot of the Dial . Do you think this is all original , the case is my only concern. There are no other movement marks I can make out ,but there are other lever cutouts filed in. And this watch didnt need any . Maybe a swap out done at a COA by the jeweler . Mike


May 04, 2010, 21:17
Larry Buchan
Hello Mike:

Yes this is an original dial, I have a Canadian Railway Time Service Waltham 1883 Serial No. 10033903 with AC Stannners 1138 Queen St. W. Toronto on the dial posted towards the end of page 4 of this thread, thank you for sharing this with us. I have seen other examples of his watches.

Larry
May 05, 2010, 01:19
Tom Brown
In the 1901 Canada Census of Toronto there was a Alx Stanner listed as a watchmaker, he was born Dec 2, 1861 in Scotland.

In the 1891 census he is listed as Alexander C.

In 1880 he was listed as a jeweler in Marinette Wisconsin

On July 19, 1885 he married Sarah Jane Thornton in Ontario
May 05, 2010, 12:34
Larry Buchan
Thank you Tom for the additional information. Here is an advertisement from a Brotherhood convention souvenir booklet for a Waltham Vanguard wind indicator, he is a CPR Watch Inspector located at 1200 Queen St. W. & 1791 Dundas Street Toronto


May 05, 2010, 19:18
Tom Brown
Thanks Larry!

Tom
May 05, 2010, 21:35
Larry Buchan
Here is another AC Stanners private label dial Roman Numeral 24 hour dial.


May 05, 2010, 21:37
Larry Buchan
Dial close-up