I have a 1927 Elgin 12s Grade 345 with a peacock dial. It is running intermittently and I believe it needs a good clean, could have a damaged staff or possibly one of the balance jewels is damaged.
Only thing is...how do I get it out of the case??? I am used to Elgin and Waltham 16s timers which have a crown stem screw. This has nothing. I remove the case screws, and the movement is loose in the case, but I cannot shift the crown. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here - probably my lack of experience with this type of watch. Any help?

How about a pic'? Maybe one of us will get lucky!

Some pics as requested.

Here's another...

You should be able to pull it down and out of the case. Pull the crown up to make this easier. There is no stem/crown retaining screw etc. for this movement. I'm not in any way a skilled repair person, but I've take movements like this out of dozens of cases. If it doesn't come out with a little fidgeting the something is wrong.

best,
Tom O.

Simon

Tom is correct, if you pull the stem out to the set mode & then with the movement screws removed the watch should tip out the dial side starting at the 6 o'clock end first & then pulling the movement off the remainder of the stem.

As Tom said, most American made pocket watches do not have a stem retaining screw, the stem stays in the case while putting the movement in or out.

Good Luck
Tom

I agree with Tom; if the stem is up like I said earlier and she's still stubborn, slowly turn the crown while gently jiggling the movement...that should do it...

You do realize that it is removed dial -side-? I had to ask!

Dial-side!! Ah-ha!! You see, my collection is mostly military stopwatches and timers and almost all my pieces come out back side (if you'll excuse the expression). I assume this is a snap fit bezel and not a screw? I don't want to force it off with a case opener when I should be twisting it!
Thanks to all of you for your responses thus far.

HA! that's GREAT news-and I imagine it is a screw bezel-just be careful! Good Luck - Marty

Simon-See why I'm a member of Internet Horology Club 185? What would I do without these guys? I'd probably be up to my knees in broken watches!

Many thanks for your help, guys. The movement is now out and waiting for me to dig in. The bezel was a snap fit (thanks Lindell) but was very difficult to detect as there were no witness marks where it had been removed before (or someone had been very careful/professional).