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Hands don't move?

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August 10, 2003, 19:00
Larry Soucheck
Hands don't move?
My Howard Series O 23j has a problem. It winds, sets, runs, and the second hand moves. Problem is the hour and minute hands sometime move but most of the time they do not. Any ideas? Thanks

Larry

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August 10, 2003, 19:43
Sam Williamson
The thing that first comes to mind is loose hour and minute hands,the second is a loose cannon pinion. Actually,probably the first thing to look at would to make sure the hour and minute hands are not hanging up on each other,that all hands have adequate clearance for each other as they make their rounds.

Oops,forgot to mention that the hands should ALSO be clear of the dial and crystal as they round.

Sam Williamson
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August 10, 2003, 19:45
Mike Miller
Sounds like the cannon pinion is a little too loose.

Mike Miller
August 10, 2003, 19:46
Mike Miller
Dang, Sam beat me to the punch... Big Grin Big Grin

Mike Miller
August 10, 2003, 20:00
Larry Soucheck
I think canon pinion might be right. As I said, I can move the hands freely, and they turn perfectly after pulling out the lever and turning the crown.

Larry

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August 14, 2003, 01:37
Kenny Drafts
May just need a new dial washer.

Kenny

Kenny Drafts
August 14, 2003, 23:14
John D. Duvall
Larry,

I can usually tell when a cannon pinion needs tightening by setting the hands. If there is very little to no resistance, the cannon pinion is probably loose. If you feel normal resistance, then your problem could be somewhere else.

John D. Duvall
Vice President, Education
August 15, 2003, 19:28
Larry Soucheck
Hmmm? John, I do feel normal resistance. Without looking at it, my watchmaker thought it might be the dial washer. I'll have to take it in next week. Thanks.

Larry

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August 17, 2003, 20:09
John D. Duvall
Larry,

If the dial washer was bad or missing, then you might also experience some problems with setting the hands too. Especially if the minute wheel is not clamped like some earlier watches.

Try holding the watch upside down (dial down) and turning the hands back and forth. If you have an hour wheel or minute wheel slipping out of position you should see it and feel it. If the hour wheel becomes disengaged from the minute wheel pinion, the hour hand will be out of sync with the minute hand.

John D. Duvall
Vice President, Education

[This message was edited by John D. Duvall on August 18, 2003 at 21:39.]