Internet Horology Club 185
A LOW NUMBER EARLY 992-B

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April 14, 2005, 22:37
Larry K. Burwell
A LOW NUMBER EARLY 992-B
What we have here is one of the earliest 992-B's to surface (and it's a nice one).


April 14, 2005, 22:42
Larry K. Burwell
Get a closer look now.


April 14, 2005, 22:54
Larry K. Burwell
Back cover in the vicinity for viewing.


April 14, 2005, 23:01
Larry K. Burwell
Now we can go "topside."


April 15, 2005, 01:03
Carlos Flores
Wow!, it looks like the day it left the store! you have a piece there..and the pictures are quite professional, clear and sharp, congratulations both for your watch and your skill.
April 15, 2005, 07:02
Robert M. Sweet
Hello Larry,
Really a beautiful watch, and a very early production, do you have the history behind this watch, i.e. original owner, where purchased? This is the lowest s/n I've seen on this forum.

Extremely nice photos.

Thanks,
Robert
April 15, 2005, 11:03
Larry K. Burwell
Carlos--Thank you for the kind remarks--I have struggled much with digital photography.

Robert--Thank you. I purchased the watch from a friend (throw away the price guide). He is more of a watch trader than collector and obtained the watch from "an old man" by trading a solid gold Elgin of some sort for it. This older person had owned the watch for a long time and was offered $600 for it a few years ago, but declined back then. Not a very interesting background history and the watch has not spoken--wish I knew more!

Larry
April 15, 2005, 11:45
Terry Hill
Larry,
Thanks for the wonderful images... looks like you've mastered the camera.

Great Watch.. !!! Everything is what I would expect to see and how it relates to other early examples.
April 15, 2005, 12:45
Robert M. Sweet
Larry,
I noticed the micro-adjustment in either black or blued, is this consistent with the early serial numbers? The others ones seem to be plated!

Robert
April 15, 2005, 13:43
Terry Hill
i think that is a lighting issue... these should all be polished metal... brite and shiny....

as i am certain this one is....
April 15, 2005, 14:04
Larry K. Burwell
That is correct. It is polished steel like all the others (not plated). Lighting is the problem here with the black appearance.
Larry
April 15, 2005, 14:22
Robert M. Sweet
Larry,
Thanks for correcting me, the lighting will definitely play tricks in photography. Do you think the company officials and employees had the opportunity to purchase the very low serial numbers of this new model in 1940? Just a thought!

Robert
April 15, 2005, 17:25
Samie L. Smith
Hey Larry nice watch it would almost impossible to find one with a lower serial#...The price guide ain't even close on a watch like this.

this one answers the question if the serial#,s under 100 would have a 0 in front of the number this one is C 039 not C 39


I was hoping I would get to see a picture of this watch.. Smile Wink

GREAT PICTURES
April 15, 2005, 19:17
Charles R. Sides
Really nice and Really early.

THanks for posting it.

Charlie
April 16, 2005, 00:15
Frank Kusumoto
Could this be earlier?


April 16, 2005, 08:21
Robert M. Sweet
Hello Frank,
Thanks for sharing this very low s/n. Two double digit s/n's in two days, this is great.

Do you have any history on this watch that you would like to share? Maybe someone will show a single digit number someday!

Would you also care to post images of the case, complete movement, etc? Thanks is advance.

Robert
April 16, 2005, 16:06
Terry Hill
Where U been hidin that one frank? Big Grin

any other info will be appreciated.....
April 16, 2005, 21:40
Lindell V. Riddle

Would you believe this rarity?

Put on your shades and check this one, how low can you go?

Housed in a SOLID GOLD CASE 11 and has "8 Adjustments" marking!


April 16, 2005, 21:55
Robert M. Sweet
Lindell,
You're too late for April Fool!
April 16, 2005, 22:08
Frank Kusumoto
I fess up. I was late for April Fools and used Larry's picture to make an earlier watch! Big Grin

Frank "407" Kusumoto
April 16, 2005, 22:22
Robert M. Sweet
Frank,
Look at the post "Hamilton 992B Introduction Information" that I posted on this forum and you will see a "real" picture of C001.

Robert
April 16, 2005, 22:30
Lindell V. Riddle

You got us Robert!

Right now Larry, Frank and I are on the phone together. We're having a good laugh. Larry is a good sport, hopefully all of us have had some fun. He is to be congratulated for his amazing find. Wink

Lindell


Larry's watch shown in the 1940-41 Catalog...


April 16, 2005, 22:44
Robert M. Sweet
Lindell,
I also had a big laugh, it is really nice to have a little fun with a nice group such as ours.

Robert
April 17, 2005, 05:46
Frank Kusumoto
Terry, Rob, Larry, et. al....,

Lindell and I were just having some fun, no malice/fraud intended. It DOES show you what a powerful tool Photoshop can be. Stare and Compare, nothing like having the watch in your hand. Caveat Emptor and all that stuff.

It actually does bring up a side issue that is not for this forum exactly, but I've bought some watches that were "CLEANED" up via photoshop so that rust, abonormalities, didn't show in the Ebay pic. The pic was of the watch, just "enhanced". Now I have no problem with taking a picture from the best angle, but actually toying with certain parts of the image to oblititerate or change change certain "rustful" parts of the watch seem to me to go beyond the pale. But as we've just shown, it is easily done.

Best regards,

Frank "407" Kusumoto

P.S.-And congrats to Larry for having such a great example of from what I've I seen is the lowest documented SN#. We all had a big laugh looking at my "photoshopped" image. Big Grin
April 17, 2005, 10:49
Larry K. Burwell
Eek At first I wasn't going to sleep well because TWO (2) earlier 992-B examples showed up so darn quickly yesterday......then I really couldn't sleep at all for trying to figure out how I'm going to get even with a certain pair of 185 chapter members! Razz
April 18, 2005, 00:32
Larry K. Burwell
LIN RIDDLE SELLS EARLY SERIAL HAMILTON TO FRANK KUSUMOTO!


April 21, 2005, 20:55
Matthew E. Sutton
I was trying to figure out what eight positions would they adjust to.
April 21, 2005, 20:58
Matthew E. Sutton
Sundial adjusted to 6 positions...hummm.
April 21, 2005, 21:17
Lindell V. Riddle

Actually 8 adjustments refers to 5 positions plus temperature and isocronism. It really would be correct but Hamilton used that reference for only a comparatively few watches in the 1920s and never again so far as I'm aware.

The really scary part is that Frank and I with limited experience in retouching came up with fairly credible examples. It proves that someone who was really out to deceive could actually sell a non-existant watch to an unsuspecting buyer.

The "six-position sundial" is a good one!

What a fun topic! Big Grin

Smile