I have promised to post a movement on the forum for weeks and have just been traveling too much to do it. But, I finally got a weekend free so here goes.
I recently acquired this chrononometer and would like to know if anyone has any information on the maker. I have seen some info that Reeley was a reseller but some other info would seem to indicate that Reeley was a watch maker.
I like the movement and case, it has not been cleaned and the dial and hands have dirt accumulated on them.
I basically know nothing beyond what can be seen and determined by the case and movement. Any insights would be helpful. Thank you.
Rick
Posts: 93 | Location: Frisco, Texas in the USA | Registered: August 29, 2006
Richard, A nice watch... a few ID things Reely was listed in London & Liverpool 1889 - 1907 and claimed that they were "Estd 1790"..London makers were thought to be better makers..Most likely why the dial is signed London and the case is marked Chester. Liverpool makers often used the Chester Hallmark office.. The hall mark in the case appears to be Chester "O" which would indicate 1913.. I can not make out the makers mark W..something.. As far as being a Chronometer, the movement features along with the dial inscription says that it is a Chronograph.. the difference being a Chronograph is used to measure time Periods, with a start - stop function..A Chronometer is a precision timekeeping device.. Usually used in navigation....Generally there is a great difference in the fit and finish between the two..as timing something for an hour or so requires a different accuracy than continous, days at a time, accuracy.. Hope that helps...
Posts: 638 | Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin USA | Registered: November 22, 2002
I may be mistaken, but I think I see the Birmingham Anchor on the case. I would help if we could identify the case maker. Can not make out the second letter of the case makers initials. The date letter appears to be 1913
Posts: 39 | Location: Somersworth, New Hampshire USA | Registered: February 18, 2005
Thank you gentlemen, that is very helpful. I did take some additional pictures that give greater detail to the stamps on the case. I can't make out the second initial but from the looks of it it may have been an I but that is a guess.
There is a button on the side of the case next to the stem that appears to do nothing so that may activate a timing mechanism.
I have found reference to a chronograph sold that was signed P W Reeley & Sons London & Liverpool Est 1790 Manufd in Coventry. Perhaps that was the father.
If anyone works on these can you tell me if I am in for any big surprises when I open it?
Can I ask a few questions about your sources?
What book are you finding this company listed in?
Is there a good book that covers European hallmarks? I have been looking for one but don't want to end up with a library on this topic if I can avoid it.
I am finding good resource material hard to find.
Thanks.
Posts: 93 | Location: Frisco, Texas in the USA | Registered: August 29, 2006
Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World...Complete 21st Century Edition by Brian Loomes.. Lists somewhere in the neiborhood of 75 - 100 thousand maker names with active dates..
For hallmarks, ect.. Watch Case Makers of England by Philip Priestly.............. This is a NAWCC Supplement Spring 1994... Absolutely the best work on English case makers and hallmarks I have ever seen..it also explains hallmarking and how to read them..
The letter date is the one in a Shield next to the anchor mark....
The button on the side is a Slide, may not slide to well as they gum up..It is hooked to a stiff wire that usually stops the escape wheel..
Cleaning and servicing is not any more difficult than any other lever watch..
Posts: 638 | Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin USA | Registered: November 22, 2002
Look at page 4 of Philip Priestley's book "Watch Case Makers of England". He says the stop work was manufactured by C. J. Richardson of Coventry. The mark on the watch in the book Is JMK incuse and marked for Chester.
Posts: 767 | Location: Los Osos, California USA | Registered: December 12, 2002
Looks like you've found a nice honest, original and unmollested example of an 'English lever' there, thanks for posting the pictures.
I can't add much to what has already been said, except that the button on the side of the case actually moves a thin wire against the bottom of the ballance staff area to stop the watch.
It should make a very nice example indeed when cleaned up, don't see too many in that condition in the UK now, think the good stuff has been grabbed by collectors! - do post some photo's when it's been spruced up!
Best regards
John.
Posts: 1282 | Location: Northern England, United Kingdom | Registered: January 07, 2006