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Does anyone know what these hallmarks mean? The dial does not have any maker name. A friend of mine inherited the watch and wants to know more about it. He hasn't sent a pic of the movement yet.

Thanks,

John III

 
Posts: 1752 | Location: Colorado in the USA | Registered: October 17, 2005
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moon and crown are german for silver
thats all I can decipher from the picture
http://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks.html
 
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great link peter!!!
 
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Peter,

Thanks for the help. So we know the casemaker was German and was in business after 1888 when the moon and crown were instituted to represented all of Germany. Would this mean the watch is necessarily German, or could the movement be English or Swiss with a German case?

Here are better closeups of the markings. It looks like the stamped word is SALONNE or BALONNE with an acute on the E.

 
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The sterling mark looks like it has the letters KAM in a box above it.

 
Posts: 1752 | Location: Colorado in the USA | Registered: October 17, 2005
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Hi John

Another part of the puzzle:

Swiss hallmark for 80% Silver (in use 1882-1934)

 
Posts: 742 | Location: Wertheim in Germany | Registered: February 21, 2009
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Update:

K & M : Kramer & Moser; Biel (switzerland); casemakers

'Galonne' (with acute on e) is the (french) word for gold plate, used on silver cases plated even in parts with gold; this could be a golden rim on the bezel.

The case was made in switzerland and exported to Germany.

I would like to see the dial & movement.

Regards
Gerald
 
Posts: 742 | Location: Wertheim in Germany | Registered: February 21, 2009
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Gerald,

Danke!

Here is a picture of the dial.

 
Posts: 1752 | Location: Colorado in the USA | Registered: October 17, 2005
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And here is the cuvette. It looks like there may be some gold highlights on it. I can't read the inscription.

I'm working on getting a picture of the movement.

John III

 
Posts: 1752 | Location: Colorado in the USA | Registered: October 17, 2005
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Thank you

Remontoir - keyless named on watchcases as a 'new' feature ~1880 - 1900

# rubis - jewel count

very likely a cylinder escapement

Gerald
 
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Swiss or German for sure by the pin set style.
 
Posts: 4395 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: July 23, 2011
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Found this advert in a Swiss Watchmaker*s Journal from 1890:

 
Posts: 742 | Location: Wertheim in Germany | Registered: February 21, 2009
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Thanks Gerald. Neat advertisement.

No picture of the movement yet.

John III
 
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