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Ball & Co Movement Number Listings In this topic we will list Ball & Co. Watch Movements by the numbers... BLE's and ORC's were originally factory produced for Ball by Howard, see Ball-Howard for pictures and more information. From advertising references I believe Ball had some of these in inventory up into the 20th century. It is my belief that Ball and Co BLE's and ORC's had original B style barrel bridges displaced by these brotherhoods and may have no serial numbers under the barrel bridge. Their corresponding dials match the style found on Ball & Co Watches from serial numbers 42001-170400. Some of these bridges were found still in inventory when Ball shut down decades ago. It seems obvious that Ball filled orders from union members with these bridges as needed. Unfortunately so did some modern collectors/dealers! It will be important for the collector to have the correct dial and movement combo! This research pretty much stops at 170400 movement number. With decades of switching components and even movement parts, it is difficult to say anything with absolute certainty, but I have enough confidence in the mathematical probability of this information to state that: I would definitely want to inspect the bottom of the plates for serial number matches before purchasing a watch that did not conform to my expectations. EXPLANATION OF SYMBOLS: "DS" = Double-Sunk / "SS" = Single-Sunk / "AN" = Arabic Numerals / "SR" = Single Roller / "BSSG" = Ball's Standard Superior Grade / "ORRS" = Official RailRoad Standard / "RRWCO" = Railroad Watch Co. / ALPHABETICAL LETTERS to assist in sorting out movements: 999A appear to be 21J with Sunray Damasceening. 999B appear to be ORRS, either Ball and Co or Private Label. 999C appear to be BRT 999D appear to be BLF 999E are Ball's Standard Railroad Watch Co (Early 17J Movements) Then later at 170101-170400. 999F are Railroad Watch Co (Early 16J movements) Then later at least until the 90101-90950 run. (Things get a little confusing there.) Serial, Model, Movement Description, Dial Name 601 936 BSSG WCB 603 936 BSSG 999 607 936 BSSG WCB 608 936 BSSG WCB 611 936 BSSG 6019 936 BSSG 6020 936 BSSG mrkd 17J WCB 6105 936 BSSG WCB 7103 937 8619 936 BSSG 80 P I 8629 936 BSSG WCB 8630 936 BSSG 8631 936 BSSG 8645 936 BSSG 8711 938 Ball & Co ORRS Ball Watch Co dial 8716 938 F F Bonnet ORRS F F Bonnet 8718 938 F.F. Bonnet ORRS F.F.Bonnet 8729 938 C.C. Fried 8731 938 Marcy & CO Ball Watch Co dial 8732 938 Marcy & CO ORRS Marcy & CO 8741 938 A.Bach ORRS A. Bach 8742 938 A. Bach ORRS A. Bach 8745 938 A.Bach ORRS A.Bach 8747 938 Murphy & Co Hamilton Dial w Ball pat 8752 938 W.C. Davis ORRS W.C. Davis 8774 938 Ball & Co ORRS Ball & Co 8782 938 Ball & Co ORRS Ball Watch CO dial 9489 939 ORRS 13001-13020=999C 13021-13070=999D 13071-13400=999B 13018 999C C.C. Gere !!!!!!!! Ball & Co ?? 13020 999C BRT BRT 13021 999D BLF BLF 13025 999D BLF B of LF& E Ball Watch CO 80 P I 13028 999D BLF ORRS 13029 999D BLF BLF 13030 999D BLF BLF 13041 999D BLF BLF&E Ball watch CO dial 13045 999D BLF BLF 13050 999D BLF BLF ... 13053 999D BLF BLF 13078 999B Davis Bros 13108 BRT Frankenwatch??!! 13109 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13125 999B BRT!!! BRT!!! 13134 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13153 999B B.H Stief Co. B.H. Stief Co. 13169 999B Lynn & Leedy L &L 13172 999B Ball & CO ORRS 13173 999B Marcy & Co Marcy 13176 999 B Borgerdine Br ORRS 13177 999 mismatch plates and dial 13196 999B W G Smith with unsigned dial 13200 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13202 999B Ball & CO ORRS ... 13203 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13213 999B Ball & CO ORRS 13245 999B Ball & CO ORRS 13253 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13264 999B C.C.Fried CC Fried 13266 999B C.C.Fried 13271 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13293 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13303 999B Ball Watch CO !! 13312 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13324 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13337 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13347 999B Ball & Co ORRS 13380 999B Marcy & Co Hamilton Marcy S 13388 999B Frank Hammond Frank Hammond 14001-100=B 14101-25=D 14126-50=C 14151-850=B 14851-75=C 14876-900=D 901-15000=B 14016 999B J.R.Read & Co Ball Watch Co dial 78 P I 14030 999B B.H. Stiff B.H. Stiff 14041 999B Eustis Bros Eustis Bros 14056 999B W.B. Wilcox W.B Wilcox 14060 999B J.C.Woelfle J.C. Woelfe 14076 999B C.W. Smith C. W. Smith 14100 999B Wm. Kendricks ORRS 14107 999D BLF BLF 14123 999D BLF Hamilton dial 14127 999C BRT BRT Ebay 14128 999C BRT Brakewheel 14129 999C BRT BRT 14138 999C BRT BRT 14159 999B ORC!! ORC!! 14175 999B Ball & Co ORRS ... 14177 999B Frankenwatch Ball Watch plate 14184 999B Kruckemeyer & Cohn Ball Watch dial!! 14194 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14205 999B Ball & CO BAll Watch Co dial 14209 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14212 999B H Joseph H Joseph 14237 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14243 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14244 999B C G Derleth C G Derleth 14252 999B J.C. Woelfe 14257 999B W.V. Foster W.V 14259 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14269 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14287 999B W V Foster W.V. Foster 14290 999B W.V .Foster W.V. Foster 14304 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14340 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14342 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14343 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14370 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14392 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14396 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14398 999B H Joseph H Joseph 14406 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14418 999B Ball & CO Ball Watch CO 14420 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14447 999B Erza F. Bowman Erza Bowman 77 P I 14458 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14484 999B Ball & Co ORRS ... 14522 999B W B Wilcox 14551 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14575 999B C.J. Howley C.J. Howley 14613 999B Wm. Kendricks & Sons 78 P I 14614 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14625 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14688 999B j.R. Reed Ball Watch Co 14691 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14695 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14698 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14706 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14710 999B Wm. Kendricks & Sons, Kendricks 14724 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14737 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14757 999B Ball & CO Ball Watch CO Ebay 14761 999B Ball & Co ORRS 78 P I 14767 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14779 999B Ball & Co Ball Watch Co 14780 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14785 999B Ball & CO Wrong dial 14788 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14791 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14836 999B Ball & CO ORRS 14856 999C BRT BRT Brakewheel Damaskeen ... 14868 999C BRT BRT 14877 999D BLF Ball Watch BLF 14893 999D BLF BLF FLAT 3 14898 999D BLF ORRS 14901 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14912 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14918 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14927 999B Ball & Co ORRS ... 14961 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14964 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14965 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14985 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14896 999B Ball & Co ORRS 14993 999B Ball & Co ORRS 20508 999E BSRRWCO 20518 999E BSRRWCO 20519 999E BSRRWCO 80 P I 20529 999E BSRRWCO 20530 999E BSRRWCO Balls Standard 20535 999E BSRRWCO PL Charles Braun (Hamilton) 20539 999E BSRRWCO 20552 999E BSRRWCO 20577 999E BSRRWCO ... 20588 999E BSRRWCO 20601 999E BSRRWCO Balls Standard RRWCO 20639 999E BSRRWCO BSRRWCO 20645 999E BSRRWCO 20653 999E BSRRWCO BSRRWCO DS 20663 999E BSRRWCO 20669 999E BSRRWCO 20672 999E BSRRWCO 20682 999E BSRRWCO 20687 999E BSRRWCO 20689 999E BSRRWCO 20691 999E BSRRWCO 20708 999E BSRRWCO 20720 999E BSRRWCO 20722 999E BSRRWCO 20730 999E BSRRWCO 20746 999E BSRRWCO 20764 999E BSRRWCO "Uniform Standard" 20768 999E BSRRWCO 20781 999E BSRRWCO 20793 999E BSRRWCO 20803 999F RRWCO 20825 999F RRWCO 78 P I 20826 999F RRWCO 79 P I 20843 999F RRWCO 20852 999F RRWCO 79 P I 20853 999F RRWCO 20862 999F RRWCO 20877 999F RRWCO 20885 999F RRWCO 20894 999F RRWCO 20908 999F RRWCO 20911 999F RRWCO 20916 999F RRWCO 20920 999F RRWCO 20926 999F RRWCO Someone engraved "17 Jewels" on movement!! 20949 999F RRWCO 20950 999F RRWCO 20953 999F RRWCO 20957 999F RRWCO 20969 999F RRWCO 20982 999F RRWCO 20989 999F RRWCO 28001-28100=B 101-115=D 116-130=C 131-400=B 401-450=C 451-500=D 28501-28550=C 551-600=D 601-625=A 28626-29000=B 28039 999B Ball & Co ORRS 28046 999B Ball & Co ORRS 28092 999B W.B. Wilcox Ball Watch CO dial! 28104 999D BLF BLF 28108 999D BLF BLF 28110 999D BLF BLF 28120 999C BRT Ball watch co dial 28139 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28155 999B Ball & Co ORRS 28205 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28209 999B Wm Kendricks on mvmt & Dial 28211 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28223 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28232 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28234 999B Ball & Co ORRS 28264 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28290 999B Ball & Co ORRS 28295 999B ORC 28305 999B G.W. Dickenson G. W. Dickenson 28307 999B Ball & C0 ORRS 28336 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28357 999B Wm Kendricks Ball watch co dial 28365 999B Ball & CO Hamilton 28371 999B Wm Kendricks Wm kendricks 28382 999B Ball & Co (938mark!) Ball Watch Co. 28395 999B G W Dickerson 28398 999B Ball & Co ORRS 28404 999C BRT BRT (flat 3) 28413 999C BRT BRT 28420 999C BRT BRT 28430 999C BRT BRT 28437 999C BRT BRT Brakewheel Damaskeen 28452 999D BLF BLF 28462 999D BLF BLF 28468 999D BLF BLF 28483 999D BLF BLF 28516 999C BRT BRT 28517 999C BRT BRT 28525 999C BRT BRT 28536 999C BRT BRT 28543 999C BRT BRT 28557 999D BLF BLF 28558 999D BLF BLF 28562 999D BLF BLF 28573 999D BLF BLF 28589 999D BLF BLF 28602 999A BLE BLE 28611 999A BLE BLE647 28617 999A Ball & Co B of LE 28632 999B BLE BLE Ebay 28647 999B ORRS Ball Watch CO 28653 999B BRT CIRC DAMASKEEN 28701 999B Wm. Kendricks Wm. Kendricks 28704 999B BLE BLE 28711 999B ORRS ORRS 28712 999B BLE barrel bridge on 118764 28719 999B Wm Kendricks 28747 999B Ball & CO 42950 Barrel BR 28748 999B BLF !!!!??? 28755 999B ORC ORC 28809 999B Wm Kendricks 28824 999B BLE BLE (damaged dial) 28827 999B !!!! BLE ??? BLE 28887 999B ORRS ORRS 28917 999B ORRS ORRS 28941 999B !!!! BRT ??? BRT Circular damasceen 28942 999B !!!! BRT ??? BRT 28962 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28972 999B Ball & CO ORRS 28981 999B BALL & CO BALL WATCH CO dial!! 28983 999B Ball & CO Ball Watch Co dial !! 29000 999B BLE BLE 79 P I 42001-100=D 101-200=C 201-300=B 301-400=B 401-500=A 501-600=B 601-700=A 701-43000=B A lot of conflict in these 42k reports, Did Ball really order 100 D's? The price guide values the 13k and 14k watches higher than these later runs. Could they be the victims of a lot of improvements or cannabalizing? 301-400 from factory records seem to be B's, but all the observations are Brotherhoods. Could this be the transition point when BLF and BRT's are installed with blank serial number barrel bridges at the Ball facility? Perhaps future research will make it clearer. 42005 999D BLF BLF 42009 999D BLF BLF&E 42012 999? Ball & CO ORRS! 42018 999? BLE BLE 42026 999D BLF BLF 42031 999D BLF BLF ... 42035 999D BLF BAll & Co 42037 999D BLF BLF 42076 999D BLF 936 Balance!! BLF 42086 999D BLF Ball Watch CO 42093 999D BLF BLF 42096 999? BLF BLF 42115 999C BRT BRT 42120 999C BRT BRT 42121 999C BRT BRT Brakewheel Damaskeen ... 42148 999C BRT BRT 42152 999C BRT BRT 42155 999C BRT BRT 42157 999C BRT BRT 42159 999C BRT BRT 42179 999C BRT BRT 42196 999C BRT BRT 42215 999 Ball watch plate and dial mismatch ebay 42228 999B Ball & CO ORRS 42240 999B Wm. Kendrick's Sons 42267 999B Ball & CO ORRS 42287 999B ORC ORC 42298 999B Ball & CO Ball Watch co 42309 999D BLF BLF 42316 999D BLF BLF 42330 999D BLF Ball Watch Co 42340 999D BLF BLF 42352 999C BRT BRT 42364 999C BRT BRT 42401 999A BLE BLE 42406 999A BLE BLE 42414 999A BRT BRT 42420 999? Wm. Kendrick's Sons 42437 999A ORC ORC 42457 999A ORRS ORRS 42458 999A BLE BLE 42459 999A BLE BLE 42491 999A ORC ORC 42497 999A ORC ORC 42502 999 ?? BLF&E Dial with no patent markings!! 43503 999B Ball & Co ORRS Incomplete 42509 999B Ball Watch Co ORRS 42516 999B Ball & CO ORRS 42558 999B Ball & Co ORRS 42576 999B Ball & Co ORRS 42582 999B Ball & Co ORRS 42606 999A BRT BRT 42611 999A BLE BLE 42613 999A BLF BLF 42619 999A ORC ORC 42622 999A BRT BRT SR 42623 999A ORC ORC 42653 999A BLE BLE 42662 999A BLE BLE 42666 999A BRT BRT 80 P I 42675 999A Ball & Co Ball Watch Co 42680 999A BRT BRT 42690 999A BLE BLE ... 42703 999B ORRS ORRS 42705 999B BLE BLE 79 P I 42733 999B BLF 80 P I 42769 Wm Kendrick's Sons Wm Kendrick's Sons 42850 999B Ball & CO ORRS No pallet or dial 42860 999B Ball & CO ORRS 42866 999B Ball & CO ORRS 42872 999B Ball & CO ORRS 42876 999B Ball & Co ORRS 42880 999B Ball & Co ORRS 42881 999B BLE BLE 42918 999B ORC ORC 42963 999B BLE BLE 54982 976 Ball & CO Ball Watch Co 56243 974 Ball & CO Ball & CO 16sz 17 J 56402 976 Ball & CO 56844 974 Ball & Co Ball & CO 16sz 17 J 58049 972 Ball & CO 59290 972 Ball & CO 60225 976 Ball & CO Ball & CO 62909 974 Ball & CO 62910 974 Ball & CO Ball & CO _________________________________________ | |||
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_________________________________________ 90101-200 = F 201-600 = Uniform standard 601-700 = G 700-750=G? 751-800 = F? 801-950 = F This seems to be the point at which factory letter designations are changing! Except for the first run of 100 there are no F's as previously known. Note that around 90751 they seem to be marked Ball Watch Co, not Ball and Co and the last group of F's seem to be all Commercial Standard's. 90101 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90129 999 Webb C Ball Barrel Roman DS BSRRWCO DIAL 90145 999 RRWCO RRWCO!! 90155 999 RRWCO 90160 999 RRWCO 90179 999 RRWCO WCBCO 90183 999 RRWCO WCBCO 90188 999 RRWCO WCBCO 90201 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90216 999 Ball & Co "A" 79 P I 90217 999 Ball & Co "A" 90220 999 Ball & Co "A" 90228 999 Ball & CO "A" 90232 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90242 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90258 999 Ball & Co ORRS DS 90268 999 Ball & Co "A" Ball watch co dial!! 90285 999 Ball & Co "A" Ball watch co dial!! 90346 999 Ball & Co ORRS 90358 999 Ball & Co "A" ORRS 90385 999 Ball & Co "A" Ball Watch Co dial!! 90403 999 BSRRWCO bridge # 20708!!!!! 90405 999 Ball & CO "A" ORRS DS 90450 999 Ball & CO "A" ORRS SS!! 90457 999 Ball & CO "A" ORRS DS DIAL 90458 999 Ball & Co "A" ORRS DS 90460 999 Ball & Co "A" ORRS DS 90490 999 Ball & Co "A" ORRS DS 90513 999 Ball & Co "A" ORRS DS dial 90514 999 Ball & CO "A" ORRS DS 90528 999 Ball & Co "A" ORRS DS 90537 999 Ball & Co ORRS "A" 90538 999 Ball & Co ORRS "A" 90539 999 Ball & Co ORRS "A" 90546 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90557 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90566 999 SR John Holtz 90576 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR 90578 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR 90617 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR DS 90624 999 Ball & CO B of LE SR 90626 999 Ball % CO ORRS SR DS 90646 999 Ball & CO DS 90671 999 Ball & CO DS 90692 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR 90705 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR parts watch 90710 999 Ball & Co ORRS SR 90720 999 ORRS "A" 80P I 90767 999 Ball Watch Co Commercial Std 90772 999 Ball Watch Co Commercial Std 90773 999 Ball Watch Co Commercial Std 90784 999 Ball & CO? Commercial Std 90787 999 Ball & CO? Commercial Std 90789 999 Ball Watch Co Commercial Std 90793 999 Commercial Std Balll Watch Co 90815 999 Commercial Std Ball Watch Co 90859 999 Commercial Std Ball Watch Co 90897 999 Commercial Std Ball Watch Co 90905 999 Commercial Std Ball WAtch Co 90911 999 Commercial Std Ball Watch Co Ball Watch Co dial!! 90916 999 Commercial Std DS Ball Watch Co 90922 999F Commercial Std DS Ball Watch Co 90938 999 Commercial Std Ball Watch Co 118001-100 = 21J 101-200 =? 201-400 = 17J 401-500 =? 501-600 =17J 601-700 = 21J 701-119000 = 17 J 118024 999 BLE BLE 118051 999 BLF 118055 999 BLF BLF 118065 999 ORC ORC 118082 999 BRT BRT 118084 999 BRT BRT 118120 999 BLF BLF 21J 118141 999 Ball & Co 21J ORRS Ball Watch Co Dial 118170 999 Ball & Co ORRS 118210 999 BLF BLF 118219 999 Ball & Co ORRS parts watch 118261 999 Ball & CO ORRS 118268 999 Ball & CO ORRS 118277 999 Ball & CO ORRS 118354 999 Ball & CO ORRS SUNRAY 118356 999 Ball & CO ORRS Sunray 118430 999 BLF BLF 118440 999 BLF BLF 118492 999 Ball & Co ORRS 118527 999 Ball & Co ORRS ... 118553 999 Ball Watch CO Ball Watch Co 118562 999 Ball Watch CO Ball Watch CO 118576 999 Ball & CO ORRS 118602 999 Ball & CO ORRS 21J 118621 999 Ball & CO ORRS 21J Sunray 118651 999 Ball & CO ORRS 21J Sunray 118660 999 Ball & CO ORRS 21J Sunray 118708 999 Ball & CO ORRS 118709 999 Ball & CO ORRS Ball Watch Co dial 118743 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR DS 118764 999 Mismatch Barrel BRidge BLE (28712) 118779 999 Ball & CO no dial 118787 999 Ball & CO Ball Watch co dial 118795 999 Ball & CO ORRS 118803 999 BLE BLE (118792) 118838 999 BRT BRT 118852 999 ORC ORC 118865 999 ORC ORC 118935 999 Ball Watch Co Ball Watch Co 118941 999 Ball Watch Co Ball Watch Co 17001-100= 17J 101-170400 = E !! But, not the same "E" that we have seen before. Factory designations have changed! 170026 999 Ball Watch Co Ball Watch Co ORRS dial 170030 999 Ball Watch Co Ball Watch Co ORRS dial 170045 999 Ball Watch Co 170108 999 170144 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR DS 170162 999 Ball & CO ORRS DS SR 170197 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR DS 170206 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR DS 170210 999 Ball & CO SR 170218 999 Ball & CO SR Hamilton dial 170240 999 Ball & CO SR Ball Watch Co dial 170247 999 Ball & CO ORRS 170249 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR DS ... 170257 999 Ball & CO Kendricks!!!!!???????? 170264 999 Ball & CO SR Ball Watch Co Dial 170280 999 Ball & CO ORRS 170282 999 Ball & CO ORRS SR 170354 999 Ball & CO ORRS 170370 999 Ball & CO SR Ball & Co DS 170376 999 Ball & CO SR Ball & Co DS 170392 999 Ball & CO SR 170504 999 Ball Watch CO Commercial Std 17J 170648 999 Ball & Co!! 21J BLF !! Replaced barrel bridge! 170633 999 Ball & Co!! 21J BLE !! ????????????????? 170668 999 Ball & Co 21J BLE 170704 999 Ball Watch Co 21J Adjusted ... 208087 999 Ball Watch Co 208600 999 Ball & Co ORC ????!!!!!!!!!!! There appear to be 81 Brotherhoods, 42 private labels and 77 Ball and Co marked movements out of a possible 3500 that have shown up so far. Made some more progress in the higher serial numbers up through 170K. Private labels pretty much get phased out after the 14K run. There are 5 in the 28K range and only 2 in the 42K range so far. None have shown up after that. _________________________________________ | ||||
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Hi again guys and gals, Latest counts from my list... 8701-8799 3 Ball & Co and 6 private labels (no brotherhoods that early) 13001-13400 10 Ball & Co 9 private labels 7 brotherhoods 14001-15000 21 Ball & Co 16 private labels 5 brotherhoods 28001-29000 9 Ball & Co 5 private labels 18 brotherhoods 42001-43000 8 Ball & Co 2 private labels 28 brotherhoods Out of a total of 3,500 we found 51 Ball & Co 38 private labels and 58 brotherhoods So only 147 known to me out of a total of 3,500 possibles. That is less than a 5 percent survival rate. Prior to that 42k run, it is pretty much one third Ball and Co, one third private label and one third brotherhoods. I know of no private labels produced after that 42k run. If anyone is willing to share any additional examples that I can add to our data base, we would appreciate it. SEND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR SUGGESTIONS TO: ihc185@roadrunner.com Happy hunting, Bill Kapp | ||||
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I have updated the list above with new observations and correlations! Any input, corrections and comments would be appreciated. I particuarly need observations or photos of undersides of barrel bridges! EARLY BALL & CO. INFORMATION BEGINS IN THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD! (Scroll to the top!) HAPPY HUNTING | ||||
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Hi Bill, I also own and would like to add to your list a BALL & CO serial # 28211 17j with ORRS Ball & Co dial with a wavy top 3. Your list is still growing. Have a great weekend | ||||
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Joseph, thanks and congrats on the nice collection you are building! happy hunting | ||||
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