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Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen Ball wallet 1905

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September 15, 2010, 22:15
Tom Brown
Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen Ball wallet 1905
Larry
This is from the same article as you posted, I bet this is where your case came from that started this topic.

brt

September 16, 2010, 11:43
Larry Buchan
Tom:

You scooped me on that one, I was going to post it next. Yes I believe the card cases would have probably been used by the Delegates to carry their convention rosters in. Also of interest was this representative handing out souvenirs for Fosingers Time Service

J.W. Forsinger established Forsinger Time Inspection Service in Chicago around 1893 and provided service to several important railroads including;

Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad
Chicago Rock Island & Pacific Railroad (The Rock Island Road)
Illinois Central
Louisville & Nashville
St. Louis & San Francisco (The Frisco)
and Wisconsin Central


September 18, 2010, 12:16
Larry Buchan
Hello Tom:

Here are some more photos of delegates from Lodge 131 White Haven, Pennsylvania Brother W.H. Adams, Lodge 244 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Brother G. W. Marshall, Lodge 724, Lodge 259 Conneaut, Ohio Brother F.G. Friend, Lodge 442 Mountain Top, Pennsylvania, Brother J.E. Gower

Larry


September 18, 2010, 17:30
Tom Brown
1. William H. Adams born Dec 1864 Pa. 1900 census brakeman White Haven, Luzerne, Pa. Married to Lillian M. (07/1867 Pa.)have a daughter Clare S.(01/1890 Pa.) From 1900-1930 he is listed as being in White Haven. 1910 & 1920 his is listed as a trainman. In 1930 he is 65 & listed again as a brakeman steam railroad. He is living alone.
September 19, 2010, 17:24
Tom Brown
2. Having trouble finding G. W. Marshall in Pittsburgh connected with the railroad. I found a George W. Marshall born about 1861 Pa. that was listed as a yardmaster for the railroad but he lived in Philadelphia in 1910.
September 19, 2010, 17:31
Tom Brown
3. F. G. Friend was Frank George Friend, born May 1878 in NY. In the 1900 census he is living in Conneaut, Ashtabula, Ohio & is listed as a railroad brakeman. He is married to Alice (04/1876 Oh) & they have a daughter Frances R (06/1899 Oh)

I found him again in the same city in 1930 but he is now listed as a conductor steam railroad.

Below is his WWII draft card that shows him working for the New York Chicago & St. Louis Railroad.

wwii

September 28, 2010, 12:45
Larry Buchan
hello Tom:

I found some more delegates in the convention picture from Lodge 375 T.G. Severson Chicago, Illinois


September 28, 2010, 12:49
Larry Buchan
From Lodge 462 A.W. Pentz Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania


September 28, 2010, 12:52
Larry Buchan
From Lodge 470 C.F. Cannon Painesville, Ohio


September 28, 2010, 12:53
Larry Buchan
From Lodge 710 P. Bradley Waco, Texas


September 30, 2010, 18:59
Tom Brown
No luck with T.G. Severson yet.

A. W. Pentz was Artemus W. Pentz born Sept. 1874 in Pa. in 1900 he is listed as living in Punxsutawney Pa. & was a railroad brakeman. He was married to Sue Ella (06/1874 Pa.)
October 01, 2010, 10:51
Tom Brown
Larry

On C.F. Cannon, I don't know which one he is in the photo, the only C.F. Cannon I have been able to find in Painesville Ohio was a Charles F. Cannon, in 1910 he was about 18 & is listed as a clerk for the railroad. So he would have been about 15 in 1905, in the photo does he look that young?

His father was Thomas Cannon who was a railroad conductor in 1910.

Tom
October 01, 2010, 12:41
Larry Buchan
He is in the middle of the photograph, and has no hat on. He looks older than 15.

Larry
October 05, 2010, 17:37
Larry Buchan
I was looking around in my library and I found the Souvenir Program from the Buffalo Convention in 1905, it has some interesting advertisements.


October 05, 2010, 17:39
Larry Buchan
Advertisement for Elgin Veritas


October 05, 2010, 17:42
Larry Buchan
Ball Watch Company Advertisement promoting their new 16 size.


October 05, 2010, 17:46
Larry Buchan
Advertisement from Frank Hammond, who was a known Ball Agent in Buffalo, New York.


October 05, 2010, 17:48
Larry Buchan
Ball Watch Agents from Syracuse, New York.


October 05, 2010, 17:50
Larry Buchan
Another watch Inspector from Buffalo


October 05, 2010, 17:59
Larry Buchan
Another interesting Local Inspector of the New York Central, East Buffalo District, showing the prices of his railroad pocket watches, of special interest is the highest priced Hampden 16 size, 23 jewel Bridge Model No. 104 at $40.00.

Larry


November 01, 2010, 12:54
Larry Buchan
Another Ball wallet from the 1922 convention of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen and Enginemen, held in Houston, Texas in May.


November 01, 2010, 12:56
Larry Buchan
Reverse side


November 01, 2010, 12:59
Larry Buchan
Here is a group photo taken at the convention it's the largest convention photo I've ever seen and is about 6 feet wide.


November 01, 2010, 13:01
Larry Buchan
Close-up view showing President William S. Carter wearing a bowtie and light gray suit fifth from the right-hand side front row of the picture.


November 01, 2010, 13:19
Larry Buchan
Here is a delegate's metals from the 1922 Houston convention for J.P. Dennis Lodge 757(Paso) El Paso, Texas that represents locomotive firemen working on the New Mexico El Paso and South Western Railway


November 01, 2010, 17:47
Larry Buchan
BIOGRAPHY:


Carter, William Samuel. Born in Austin, Texas August 11, 1859, son of Samuel Miles and Margaret Francis (Oliphant) Carter; married Mary Evelyn Gorsuch on December 26, 1880, and, after her death in 1892 Julia I. Cross on November 27, 1902; attended the public schools of Williamson County, Texas, and then the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas for two years; worked for a time as a cowboy before coming a fireman on a southwestern Railroad in 1879; work during 1879-1894 as a baggageman, fireman, and engineer in several different railroads in the United States and Mexico; joined the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen and Enginemen (BLF&E); became editor and manager of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen Magazine in 1894 and served until 1904; elected general secretary treasurer of the BLF&E in 1904 and president in 1909; appointed director of the Division of Labor of the US Railway Administration during World War I; retired from the presidency of the BLF&E in 1922 and was appointed manager of the newly organized research department; an opponent of compulsory arbitration, but was an essentially conservative trade unionists who advocated mediation and arbitration as an alternative to strikes; supported the Democratic Party, died in Baltimore, Maryland March 15, 1923.