Internet Horology Club 185
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January 16, 2014, 11:21
Ethan Lipsig
★ STAR WATCHES ★ [Rare, Scarce, Sparse Rating Scale]
Its movement


January 16, 2014, 11:30
Michael James Swift
Thank you Lorne,Buster has the much scarcer dial, and prettier!
January 16, 2014, 11:56
Gary E. Cochran
This is a 2 star that I got back in 90's...It is a unmarked Illinois 23 jewel grade 174..Serial number is 2232986...Not sure but I think there were less than 500 made..
January 16, 2014, 11:57
Gary E. Cochran
Pic 1


January 16, 2014, 11:58
Gary E. Cochran
Pic 2


January 16, 2014, 12:07
Lorne Wasylishen
quote:
Thank you Lorne, Buster has the much scarcer dial, and prettier!


Do you know if these dials were used only on the "4 Railroader" or were they on other Illinois watches as well?
January 16, 2014, 12:15
Lorne Wasylishen
quote:
I don't know whether the aluminum is an alloy or pure.


The movement appears in such good condition for such a soft metal I assumed they alloyed it for hardness.
January 16, 2014, 13:28
Jerry Freedman
The book shows the Elgin 161 as a 2 star watch. here is the dial.


January 16, 2014, 13:29
Jerry Freedman
Here is the movement.


January 16, 2014, 13:56
Ken Habeeb
Nice all around.

Eek

kh
January 16, 2014, 15:10
Michael James Swift
Lorne, don’t know if used on other movements (though two different 24 hour dials show in the 1923 parts cat) but according to Megegrs seems only these two where used for the Railroader (with a third one seen in an add only). Buster has the “very rare” dial, nice!

Gary, real nice Illinois Getty you have!


January 16, 2014, 15:18
Lorne Wasylishen
Thanks Michael, I should have looked that up myself.
January 16, 2014, 18:23
Joseph Pierzynski
* * * 16s Hamilton 992 special checker board pattern, marked 992 special and has a second serial # hand etched under the factory serial #. Enjoy


January 16, 2014, 18:24
Joseph Pierzynski
dial without bezel


January 16, 2014, 18:25
Joseph Pierzynski
movement 1


January 16, 2014, 18:25
Joseph Pierzynski
movement 2


January 16, 2014, 18:26
Joseph Pierzynski
movement 3


January 16, 2014, 18:26
Joseph Pierzynski
movement 4


January 16, 2014, 18:27
Joseph Pierzynski
case Hamilton Railroad 14k White GF but the lighting makes it look yellow


January 16, 2014, 18:28
Joseph Pierzynski
case rear


January 16, 2014, 18:29
Joseph Pierzynski
bow is loose, no brassing or dents


January 16, 2014, 18:31
Gary E. Cochran
Joseph,
Now that's a real beauty...I really like the WGF case too.
January 18, 2014, 16:10
Paul Kattner
No idea how many stars this Illinois 21 jewel Sterling 12s has. The lack of a seconds dial was what captured my attention.

Paul Kattner

Dial

January 18, 2014, 16:10
Paul Kattner
Movement


January 18, 2014, 16:11
Paul Kattner
Case


January 18, 2014, 16:12
Paul Kattner
Dial with bezel on.


January 18, 2014, 18:50
Joseph Pierzynski
* wanted to share this one star 18s Ball Watch Co Single Roller, they don't come around often, this one keeps fantastic time. enjoy


January 18, 2014, 18:52
Joseph Pierzynski
dial without bezel, it is mint, hands have some tarnish


January 18, 2014, 18:52
Joseph Pierzynski
movement


January 18, 2014, 18:53
Joseph Pierzynski
single roller movement


January 18, 2014, 18:54
Joseph Pierzynski
case back is not monogramed


January 18, 2014, 19:56
Lorne Wasylishen
Joseph, you're making me jealous, I especially like the Hamilton For Railroad Service.

I think I see 2559214, what is the other serial #?
January 19, 2014, 07:51
Joseph Pierzynski
Hi Lorne, thank you. Yes the factory serial # is 2559214, the hand etched serial # which is located just under the factory serial # is so small that I have a hard time reading it with a magnifying glass. The etched serial # is 37055 and from what I know no one is really sure why the extra serial # is there....