Internet Horology Club 185
Q: Please help identify A: Unmarked Private Label Getty

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January 13, 2014, 16:40
David Flegel
Q: Please help identify A: Unmarked Private Label Getty
Anyone recognize the maker here.


January 13, 2014, 16:49
Gerald Zimmermann
David

The moon-shape click:

Illinois Watch Co. (Model 5 ?)

Regards
Gerald
January 13, 2014, 18:19
Paul D. Trombley
David,

I have an Illinois database... post the serial number and I can give you the production numbers on this watch.

This otherwise unmarked private label Getty isn't much to write home about...!!!UNLESS!!!... it has a decent Getty case and dial.

If it has a case with a decent lever cut out at 8 minutes... not one extended all the way from 4 minutes... 23/19 for a hunter. And has a dial with no chips, missing bits, or evidence of spackel and appliance paint...

The Dial can be worth $50-$100 and the case can be worth even more... add correct hands... $50.00 and you are off to the races.

I would love to find this movement with the common Gothic Illinois dial... most collectors won't pay the price because the dial and movement don't match... I could use the movement for parts and the dial/hands/case to finish three other watches.
January 13, 2014, 18:30
David Flegel
Here is picture of dial. The lever cut is at 23 minutes and the case is a crescent hunter. Once I knew it was an Illinois I looked it up.

Grade 173
SN 1665650
Production Year 1903
Run quantity 300
16s 15 j
Hunting configuration Model 4 Lever
3/4 plate
barrel going


January 13, 2014, 19:09
Keith Klimkowicz
David

I have the 17j version of that same private label in a Getty model #1526583.

I have been looking for the proper dial for it for the last 5 or so years.

Nice find.

Keith
January 13, 2014, 20:07
Paul D. Trombley
David,

In addition to the info you have, it's a model 4, total production of the grade is 25,770

It was produced in a batch listed as Private Labels for Paillard Watch Co.

From what I can make out in the pictures, Matching dial and movement, great case, great hands in good running order... it's pretty much worth what ever you are willing to pay for it.

Some might argue it needs moon hands... I personally don't care for them and wouldn't go out of my way to change them.
January 14, 2014, 12:37
Ken Habeeb
Funny thing -- I found this beaut in a pawn shop just a few days ago. They thought it was an English make or something. I knew right away what it was not least because I'm a denizen of ihc185.
The private label name is Jacobs and Co., a long-established firm in Minneapolis.
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January 14, 2014, 12:56
Ken Habeeb
inside, the 17J movement (serial 1619423) that started up on the second wind.


January 14, 2014, 13:08
Ken Habeeb
S. Jacobs and Co storefront in Minneapolis.


January 14, 2014, 13:09
Ken Habeeb
same street photo in the twenties with Jacobs & Co. still in business (left side), well after the watch was sold (around 1902).


January 14, 2014, 13:14
Ken Habeeb
the watch case