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Octava U.S.A.P

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December 22, 2011, 13:57
Paulo Daneu
Octava U.S.A.P
Hi friends,

I need some help about an pocket watch signed Octava.

Sorry by newbie questions.
What means u.s.a.p and MKV? I looked for information in google, but I received a lot of pages and did not find any that response me.

Looking in the forum I found the information that these watches was used in first war.

Bellow is some photos.

Tks,


Paulo





December 22, 2011, 15:34
David Abbe
Paulo, welcome to IHC, Ragarding your Octava, it is reported as an 8 Day movement in a book titled "Pocket Watches, 19Th & 20Th Century" by Alan Shenton who gives the following information;


December 22, 2011, 15:41
David Abbe
They also show some pictures of the Patent and another watch like yours. "MKV" is a British Military designator often referring to the latest design "revision" of the item.


December 22, 2011, 15:58
David Abbe
The Patent appears to show a very large mainspring. Have you tested the running time of this watch?


December 22, 2011, 16:41
Paulo Daneu
Hello David,

Thanks by information. I did not tested it, I received it yesterday.

What means U.S.A.P?


Tks,


Paulo
December 22, 2011, 16:58
Tom Brunton
United States of America Patent Wink
December 22, 2011, 17:00
David Abbe
Paulo, I have no answer for what U.S.A.P. means here. The catalog picture is Pre WWI and it is British military, so there is no clear connection to the USA. Perhaps U.S.A.P. refers to some commercial enter[rise that distributed these watches.
December 22, 2011, 18:19
Chris Abell
For Fun I found,
U.S. Antarctic Program (USAP)

USA Perpignan, a rugby union club in Perpignan, France.

Unacknowledged Special Access Program
Link


www.Abellwatchmakers.com
December 22, 2011, 18:39
Norman Mayberry
David,I have one of these 8 day movements in what looks to be from a travel clock.8 days,15 jewels,adjusted 3 positions,U.S.A.P.816321.Runs8 days on a full wind and is very accurate.If you look at plate 14 in the drawings you posted it says USA patent.Regards.Norm
December 22, 2011, 18:47
Tom Brown
Tom is correct with USAP standing for United States Approved Patent, if you notice the number after USAP is 816321. That is the US patent number and it is also the same number in the image Dave posted of the patent.

Tom

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December 22, 2011, 18:55
Tom Brown
Here is the image for the patent, the same one Dave posted.

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December 22, 2011, 18:58
Tom Brown
The text for the patent

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