May 04, 2015, 02:04
Ken HabeebDanville, Illinois estate find; info request regarding Waltham Model 1857
An old, not particularly valuable (keywind s#453773) Waltham model 1857 Waltham Watch Co grade timepiece was calling my name the other day, and not being too expensive, I bought it.
The draw was its complete originality, and its cuvette inscription: W.W.R. Woodburg, Danville Illinois, May 3rd, 1871.
Heavy R&A, Robbins and Appleton silver case.
The seller answered my question about its provenance the best she could: she wrote that she found it in an estate sale in Danville, Ill., which meant it did not leave its original environs over the 144 years since it was purchased in J.P. Hill's Jewelery store in Danville. I know that purchase fact by the old advertising key you can see in the photo.
I could find no other information in a google search, but I'm hoping that Tom, or some other amateur sleuth might be able to help.
Thanks in advance!
Ken
May 04, 2015, 17:16
Paul D. TrombleyVery cool Ken. I was born in Champaign and still have family in Danville.
This watch however, predates my family there by about 30 years.
I'll have to keep my eyes open for the R&A cases... I don't believe I've seen one before.
May 04, 2015, 19:43
Ken HabeebThanks for the note, Paul. The case is a little unusual. But a very well-known casemaker. As you probably already know, Robbins and Appleton are the very same gentlemen associated, to understate it, with Waltham.
Ken
May 05, 2015, 13:29
David AbbeKen any dial and movement pictures?
May 05, 2015, 16:23
Paul D. TrombleyThat's kinda what I figured... yet another link in the interwoven history of these early timepieces.
May 05, 2015, 18:34
David AbbePaul look in the book what was the hand-written production date for 453773
May 05, 2015, 22:03
Michael P. McNameeKen, your watch and its history bring chills to my spine. VERY COOL!
May 05, 2015, 22:46
Paul D. TrombleyDave,
Can you interpret this for us?
May 06, 2015, 01:25
David AbbeManufacture cycle; June-October, 1870
Movement signed; American watch Co.
Size: 18
4 Pairs train Jewels, (15 Jewel Movement)
Marked; "(Fogg's)Patent Pinion"
Compensating (bi-metal) Balance Wheel
Note this may have had a different signature on the actual movement, but being made as a 15 Jewel temperature compensated balance wheel movement this is well enough Jeweled and adjustable to be made RR accurate.
May 06, 2015, 02:25
William D. WhiteHi Ken!
Nice watch. I don't have any American keywinds anymore. When I did, it was the only one and I sold it to a guy at work whose son was in a civil war play of some kind. It was a small 1860's HC. Bla Bla.
Mostly just saying hi to my neighbor Ken!
William
May 06, 2015, 15:16
Ken HabeebOK, I'm back with more photos - not at all to William's standards, but maybe good enough. You might barely be able to tell that it has gold hinges. Big thanks to David and Paul for the handwritten Waltham records and interpretation. I'm still hoping for some background info after issue date.
Hello William! - I wish we were much closer neighbors - like down the street from each other. Hope to see you and M. & O. again soon.
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