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16 size ELGIN

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July 26, 2011, 08:10
Norman Mayberry
16 size ELGIN
I have a 16 size,Elgin in an original Elgin case that is stamped cased and timed by Elgin.It has a 17 jewel,574 movement,adjusted 5 positions,serial # V5797759.Elgin signed Montgomery dial.All look to be original.It is stem wind and set.My question is whether or not this would have been a"Railroad" watch?If not,why the Monty dial and the 5 position adjustment?Thanks for any enlightenment you experts can provide.Regards.Norm
July 26, 2011, 09:46
C. Keith Johnson
When this watch was sold I don't think very many railroads approved a 17 jewel pendant set watch. The Monty dial and 5 adjustments were mainly a sales tool.
I am not an expert just an observer.
You may hear from some wiser than I.........Keith
July 26, 2011, 10:23
David Abbe
Norman, when your watch was made in 1948, the general RR rules for newly purchased RR watches required Pendant at 12:00, Lever setting, 6 adjustments, 21 Jewels as a minimum. The Montgomery dial patent was long gone and many watchmakers freely produced 7 Jewel and up watches with that or a "numeric" equivalent, including Waltham, Elgin and the Swiss such as Monkey Wards "LeGant". You have a nice "carry" watch.

Sadly, most if not all of these watches had "elinvar" balance (hair) springs and wheels and were quite capable of running a train on time.


July 26, 2011, 11:29
Norman Mayberry
Thanks Kieth and David.I was wondering about the silver colored balance wheel and hairspring.And David,you are so right about the"being able to keep a train on time".On a full wind this one keeps time with my computer,almost to the second.Thanks again.Norm
July 28, 2011, 08:54
Norman Mayberry
What kind of mainspring are in these movements.I did a full wind on this one at 11:30 AM on the 26th and over 45 hours later it's still ticking with no sign of slowing down.I have 992 Hamiltons that run 40+ hours but never an Elgin.