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September 11, 2009, 09:59
Roger J. Nolfe
Research Help Please
Pictured is a Fusee I just overhauled. The case was black and all the pivots were stuck in their holes like glue. It is a 7 jewel mvt. and is running and keeping decent time. It has a nice bullseye crystal. So far from the case markings I believe it is Sterling Silver, Chester Assay office, 1840. I can't find what the letters TC&GB mean or the watchmaker Tho (Thomas?) Dumbell...what a name! There are also letters IW on the stem. Any help will be much appreciated.


September 11, 2009, 10:47
Gerald Zimmermann

Good job !

A very well cleanod old britisch fusee, running and in good condition.

I found the watchmaker in Baillie's:

Thomas Dumbell, Rochdale ca. 1820

Rochdale is a city north of Manchester

September 11, 2009, 10:51
Jerry King
WOW!!! Roger, you have done a super job of clean up and restoration...!

I can't quite make out those halmarks but it is definitely 'Sterling Silver'....

Maybe others can help you with the marks on the case....

What a clean looking movement....I'll be interested to know more about this watch as info is posted as I'm sure it will be....

Good Luck....

September 11, 2009, 11:31
Tom Brown

That does look nice.

1881 England Census Lancashire, Liverpool, Mount Pleasant, District 30
156 Upper Huskisson Street Thomas Dumbell age 54 born about 1827 watchmaker
Wife Ann 44 about 1837
Son William 26 about 1855
Son Thomas 24 about 1857

1871 census
Thomas, Ann, William, Thomas, Elizabeth about 1859, John about 1861, George about 1863, Annie about 1869, Amelia about 1870

September 11, 2009, 11:37
Tom Brown
I also found

1851 census

His father Joseph was also listed as a watchmaker, at the time Thomas was living with his father & mother Sarah in Liverpool.

September 11, 2009, 11:49
Jerry Freedman
On page 191 of Priestley's book a TG&BG incuse is listed. It refers to Thomas Green of Liverpool. Could the mark in your watch be a poor strike and the C should be read as a G? That is as close as I could get to your mark.
September 11, 2009, 18:59
Edward Kitner
Hey Rog I will second that "WOW." Super job on a great looking watch.
September 11, 2009, 20:00
Roger J. Nolfe
Thanks all! You are all a great source of information and encouragement. Jerry, It is possible that it could be TG and not TC. Tom, I don't know how you find all that info, but that's what I was looking for. Appreciate ALL the responses.

September 11, 2009, 21:40
Eric Unselt
Gorgeous piece of machinery, Roger. That balance cock is a work of art Wink.

Anybody know what the "DETACH'D" refers to?
September 11, 2009, 23:02
Tom Brown

It means it is a detached lever escapement, on page 66 of the price guide it gives a brief example.