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Tell me about this Elgin

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December 07, 2006, 13:51
Dan Mitchell
Tell me about this Elgin
The story as I understand it is that my late Grandparents went to the USA for a few weeks in the 1930's -- and there my Grandfather bought two pocket watches, of which I have the one illustrated below. As I'm not a PW collector I'd like to hear something about the watch.


Dan.

Elgin PW

December 07, 2006, 13:56
Dan Mitchell
This is the movement side of the above ---

The movement is numbered 23068031, and marked 7 jewels, while the case is marked "Cashier Gold Filled, AWC Co. - case made in Canada"

Elgin movement side.

December 07, 2006, 16:35
Mark Cross
Elgin look up, Waynes site

Here's a start.

Regards! Mark
December 07, 2006, 18:17
Sheila Gilbert
Just in case you have not looked it up yet.

Your Elgin in a size 16s, 7 Jewel, 1920, 3/4 plate, model 6, Pendant set, grade 292, class 109, hunter case, Elgin.

There were a total of 336,000 of this model made between 1903-1927, and there were 1000 made in the run of your watch.

Hope this helps.


Sheila
December 08, 2006, 10:00
Mark Cross
That's what it says at the link I supplied him, Sheila. Glad we're on the same page. Wink

Regard! Mark
December 08, 2006, 11:09
Sheila Gilbert
Mark,
Oops, I had trouble learning how to figure out what the codes meant in the beginning, as a newbie, so I added what the codes mean for everyones comparison.

It's always best to post the site, then others can learn more about (my) facorite watch!

I'm quite sure Dan knows the codes, just adding to your post for any newbie that may peek in.

Sorry, my mind is still not real clear.


Sheila
December 08, 2006, 11:45
Mark Cross
Absolutely no problem, Shiela. Smile

That link also gives him access to the Elgin site where those codes can be found and learned. That's how I learned...reading and studying sites like that and this.

How's the old saying go? "Give a man a fish, and he's fed for a day...teach a man how to fish, and he's fed for life"

Regard! Mark
December 08, 2006, 12:18
Jerry Treiman
It also looks like your grandfather took good care of his watch and kept it serviced. After the mechanism began to wear his watchmaker added a jeweled bearing to the watch to replace a worn brass bushing so that it now has either 8 or 9 jewels.
December 08, 2006, 13:48
Sheila Gilbert
Mark,
I know what you mean, I have read that entire site over and over again. I just love it, and never felt like a real collector until I could learn something about watches, and Wayne's site sure showed me how to learn. I love that site!

Jerry,
Great information! I may be still learning, and this shows how important the people here are too!
Without the pros, we would be lost, even with good sites that tell so much.

Dan,
I have to agree with Jerry, he must have taken really good care of the watch, it looks so clean and with the repair-improvement, wow!


Sheila
December 08, 2006, 18:04
Ed Ueberall
Dan,
Did your grandparents take a side trip to Canada while they were on this side of the pond? The "Cashier" case was made in Canada, and most of their cases were sold in Canada, many housing U S made movements, as Canada had no domestic watch industry.


Ed Ueberall
IHC Member 34
The Escapement
December 13, 2006, 10:57
Dan Mitchell
Did he go to Canada ? - alas no way now of finding out, as both he (my maternal grandfather), and all his children, are now long gone.

As to the one extral jewel - well that is down to me - I had a local jeweler fix the bearing as the metal hole was so badly worn. The inside case bears many marks of previous jewelers who have serviced the watch up until the 1950's.


dan