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HAMILTON 992B 4C MOVEMENT NUMBER

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September 11, 2010, 21:04
Larry Lamphier
HAMILTON 992B 4C MOVEMENT NUMBER
This is a little interesting as I am not really sure what I have here as far as the dial and case go.

On the left is a 1951 992B
on the right is a 1970 992B

Notice the difference in the dial, and in the bows.


September 11, 2010, 21:06
Larry Lamphier
The movements with the serial numbers.
left = C326962
right= 4C146237


September 11, 2010, 21:08
Larry Lamphier
the inside of the back case covers.
Left is still the 1951 and the right the 1970.

My question is on the 1970:

1. Is that dial right?

2. Is the case the right case?


September 11, 2010, 21:14
Larry Lamphier
I know this has been covered before, but I just am not sure. I am going to take the movement apart to clean it and will be checking the numbers.
I appreciate any help on this.

Regards,
Larry
September 11, 2010, 22:26
Richard Romero
Larry,
The 4C has a replacement dial. The sub seconds chapter is not sunk and too small in diameter making the seconds hand go past the circumference. The bow on the 4C case doesn't look right because it's bent out of shape and possibly worn where the edges make contact with the case frame. The writing on the case backs is correct because it changed over time and the later one has the correct Hamilton H logo. A melamine HG or BMN RWS dial and the later 4C watch will be correct.
RR
September 11, 2010, 22:57
Larry Lamphier
Thanks Richard, I forgot to mention that if you look at the lever set, you can see a brass plate for the dial, and it looks like the dial is just painted on.

So a 24 hour dial would not work on this year then?

Regards,
Larry
September 12, 2010, 06:47
Phillip Sanchez
Larry, My opinion for what it is worth. On the 4C take that crappy dial, sell it on Ebay. Change out the bow. Put your 24hr dial and those hands on the watch. What possible difference could it make if it is not exactly period correct?
September 12, 2010, 12:36
Buster Beck
Collecting the late model 992B's Big Grin

this 1970 model is coming to TEXAS Eek

in its not so original wrappings Frown

Thanks Larry Smile

regards,
bb
September 20, 2010, 13:25
Buster Beck
I received the late model 4C 992B from Larry this morning [ see Larry's image above on the right ].

I straightened [lowered ] the bow,changed the dial back to original factory melamine, and took a couple dents out of the back of the case.

Now it's back to factory original Smile

Thank you Larry Smile

regards,
bb


September 20, 2010, 15:29
Phillip Sanchez
Buster, You are a good man. Smile
September 21, 2010, 18:00
Bill Goff
Nice job Buster. It is difficult to buy a watch that has not been "vandalized" these days. A sign of the times as the watches are getting rather old from manufactured date to now...

A nice model 950 watch I actually bought from my friend Larry shown below...


September 21, 2010, 22:04
Buster Beck
Thanks guys, Even a caveman could do it Smile

Nice looking 950B Bill Smile

regards,
bb
September 21, 2010, 22:43
Tom Brunton
picked up this little number tonight, a 940 hamilton with a nice 24 hour Monty dial with a couple hairlines Frown


September 21, 2010, 22:44
Tom Brunton
#2


September 21, 2010, 22:56
John J. Flahive III
Nice watch Tom! Smile

I love the 24 hr Montgomery dials! Cool

How much do you want for it? Big Grin

John III
September 21, 2010, 23:01
Tom Brunton
hi John; Don't rightly know haven't had many railroads lately mostly had ill health LOL but had 26 watches brought to the door,bought eight, a beauty 19j Riverside a nice 18s Columbus,a Timing and Repeating watch Co. Chronograph,a Bertmar GSTP WW2 watch,etc
September 21, 2010, 23:15
Larry Lamphier
Better LATE than never!

That's a nice job bb!

Nice to see some of my watches on here also.

Thank you Bill. I see you keep it looking GOOD!! Smile

Regards,
Larry
September 22, 2010, 00:53
Hub Harms
Hi I have a question,about Larrys 4c 992b.Was it shipped from factory with a 4992B piller plate?Or did some one do it out side factory?If it was done at factory,don't you think he has a winner?
Hub.
September 22, 2010, 09:09
Buster Beck
Hi Hubert,

The 4C 992B's were the final factory production or "cleanup" run that Hamilton made. Since the cleanup run consisted of in house, in stock parts and without rhyme or reason, and without any surviving records, we will never be certain how many 4C's are out there.

However since there were over half a million 992B's made, they are and will be in our lifetime, readily available. The 4C's will represent a "variation" that will entail a following in the years to come.

regards,
bb