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Wadsworth hallmark question

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February 05, 2020, 13:03
Edward A. Huston
Wadsworth hallmark question
Wadsworth hallmark question

I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find definitive information about this anywhere. I'm trying to figure out exactly what the below hallmark is. Looking in the big book, I see the mark with the words Trade Mark on either side, but not one with just the mark alone. I'm assuming that the case is still gold, I just don't know for sure what it is or if the lack of "Trade Mark" changes anything. Any thoughts or ideas? I should have the watch in hand in a week or so, so I can post clear pictures then.
Thanks for any help.


February 05, 2020, 13:06
Edward A. Huston
Here's a pic of the actual mark, just in case it helps. Thanks again.


February 05, 2020, 16:58
Bila Wirriganwalters
To my knowledge Edward this is the trademark for a "14k Gold Filled, Warranted for 25 Year" caseSmile
February 05, 2020, 18:10
Edward A. Huston
Really? Well, this should be interesting! I'm really looking forward to getting this now!. I saw this and figured that it just HAD to be 14K. I didn't know if they ever made the multi color cases with a gold filled base. I guess we'll see when it comes in!
Thanks, Bila


February 05, 2020, 19:16
Bila Wirriganwalters
I have had a half dozen or so cases here Edward in multi colours and they were all gold filled. Let me know when you receive it. It is always better in hand for a close inspection, but that Wadsworth trademark of W.W.C.Co in that style is for the 25 year gold filled by all my books. Hopefully we might get a surpriseSmile
February 06, 2020, 09:30
Edward A. Huston
Wow, Bila, really? Well, I'll be darned. Here's where my continued inexperience keeps showing. I had no idea. I just never expected multi-colored overlays to be put on a gold filled case. So, I'm sure you're correct and I probably paid a little more than I otherwise would have. Oh, well. Live and learn. It's still a really nice looking case and we'll see what happens when it comes in.
Thanks for the info, Bila!
February 06, 2020, 16:28
Bila Wirriganwalters
It is still a great looking case as you say Edward regardless of what its composition isSmile
February 08, 2020, 02:52
Dennis McCann
I would love to have that case if my name were Sam! Wink
February 11, 2020, 14:01
Edward A. Huston
I'm baaaaack!
The watch is in hand so now it's time to figure out just what I have. I'll put up some pics for reference. The watch itself is a 0s Elgin, #6899396. The case, as noted before, is what I'm most interested in. The image above is the back of the case. The only marking there is the case number. Here is the front of the case.


February 11, 2020, 14:03
Edward A. Huston
What surprised me is that the Wadsworth logo is inside the front of the case. This isn't a great picture, but it does show that there are no other marks besides logo and case number.


February 11, 2020, 14:03
Edward A. Huston
Here's the open case showing the logo.


February 11, 2020, 14:05
Edward A. Huston
The only mark inside the back of the case are the case number and the words, "PAT. APPL'D FOR". Again, not the greatest picture, but you can read it, so I guess that's the most important part.


February 11, 2020, 14:15
Edward A. Huston
Since I'm still a newby in this area, any ideas what I can do to figure out what this is or are you guys pretty convinced that it's a 25 year case? Thanks again for any thoughts or assistance!
February 14, 2020, 11:51
Roger Stephens
25 year gold filled. Look on page 37 of the Price Guide


Roger
February 14, 2020, 18:11
Edward A. Huston
Thanks for that Roger. I guess that I'm just confused by a couple of things. First, unless I have an older book, I don't see a mark that is just the combined letters. What I see on page 37 actually says "Wadsworth" with "Trade" on the left and "Mark" on the right. Which, again unless I'm mistaken, looks exactly like the solid gold mark on page 35. I'm sure you guys are right, I just want to make sure that I'm seeing the same things that you guys are and that I'm not completely crazy! Thanks again.
February 14, 2020, 18:54
Rick Hufnagel
Ok Edward here's proof it's gold filled. I have a case with the same trademark right here. I had to bust out the microscope to find brassing, but I found it.

First here's the case. Stunning 6 size high relief.


February 14, 2020, 18:55
Rick Hufnagel
Trademark


February 14, 2020, 19:02
Rick Hufnagel
Brassing on pendant. Sorry I'm having huge problems uploading pictures, it seems the files have to be outrageously small. My camera photos are no where near able to be uploaded.


February 15, 2020, 07:33
Dr. Debbie Irvine

Rick,

Extremely large images cannot be viewed by those with slower internet connections or smaller screens.

Due to those considerations and to avoid overloading storage capacity our system is set up to not accept poster size images.


In this link titled "HELP IN POSTING IMAGES FOR HOSTING ON OUR IHC185 DISCUSSION SITE" I have posted that information.


>> Proper size: 640 X 480 Pixels
>> Resolution: approximately 72 Pixels/Inch


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February 15, 2020, 09:30
Rick Hufnagel
Debbie,

Thank you for the links. Im not a computer wizard by any means. Last night after fooling around on the phone with that pendant photo trying to get it uploaded, I did run across this program called "Lit Photo". After some experimenting it made this picture, which was originally 2448x3264 and almost 2 MB into what you see below. 480x640. 56kb.

I don't know how it works... But mission accomplished when I read your link above and it gave the proper ratio. I wanted to upload this one here to show a gold filled case with multi colored gold on top, and I haven't been able to untill now, so thanks!

Its not hard to resize the photos. Just something I've never seen or done before, and didn't understand what was happening.


February 16, 2020, 10:28
Dr. Debbie Irvine

Rick,

Glad you were able to downsize and post in this topic.

Thanks for the downsizing information - I added to my link above.