Unusual Illinois Dial?

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February 24, 2008, 18:02

Chris Abell

Unusual Illinois Dial?

Hi,

Just picked up new tray of watches one of which is a Illinois S16 watch with this dial, can anyone tell me anything about it, style, age range, type of watch fitted, its on a Sangamo currently, value/rarity

February 24, 2008, 22:31

Lindell V. Riddle

Very nice dial Chris, thanks for sharing it.

I would expect to see dials like that on a late-teens Sangamo, a 17 or 19-Jewel Bunn although it could have also come on an A. Lincoln or Bunn Special into the early 1920s time frame. Later, the 60-Hour Bunn Special 21 or 23-Jewel Open-Face movements fronted a much bolder looking dial.

That's my take but others may have a different opinion.

February 24, 2008, 23:22

Ethan Lipsig

Here is the same dial, but in gothic, on a 16 size Sangamo Special, circa 1915.

February 25, 2008, 00:25

Sheila Gilbert

Chris, that is one really great dial, looks so crisp and clean. Congratulations!

February 25, 2008, 09:19

Chris Abell

Hi All,
Thanks for the infomation, I have never seen one of these with such small numerals before on a monty dial, can anyone show me another?...

February 25, 2008, 15:27

Lindell V. Riddle

That is an unusual dial Chris, but this one comes close...

February 25, 2008, 22:36

Chris Abell

here is another Sangamo I have, this one has the separate bridges.

February 25, 2008, 22:37

Chris Abell

Movement number 2615944

February 26, 2008, 10:47

Lindell V. Riddle

That's a rare and beautiful watch, thanks for sharing it!

Below, an earlier version of Ethan's dial on a 1913 Bunn Special.

February 26, 2008, 18:10

Dave Freeman

Chris,
here's an Illinois Santa Fe Special dial which has you see is pretty similar in style
to your watch, Ethan's and Lindell's.

March 01, 2008, 15:51

Lawrence P. Jones

Chris,
I will add my two cents. I've not seen a dial like yours that is pictured. I added one that I have on a 19j Sangamo Special. It doesn't look like any of the others other than it has a 'Gothic' look to it that you associate with the Sangamo and Sangamo Special watches

March 01, 2008, 16:02

Lawrence P. Jones

Here is the movement for the dial. It is a true bridge. But that doesn't answer your question on how rare your dial is. The one on this movement looks like the dial on the Bunn, so there are two that appear to be the same.

March 01, 2008, 20:29

Lawrence P. Jones

Is this an unusual Illinois dial? I've allways thought so.

March 01, 2008, 20:47

Chris Abell

Here is one I had a while ago, didn't have the nice hands,this was on a Hamilton