Internet Horology Club 185
Hampden I.D.

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November 20, 2014, 12:55
Bob Rehberg
Hampden I.D.
Have this Hampden that has what looks to be the same movement as the Canadian Pacific R.W. Hampden on page 242 of this years Price Guide (2014-Volume 34). It has a Fahys No. 1 COIN case and is lever set. Please see attached photos. I need enough info to price in the members area.


November 20, 2014, 12:56
Bob Rehberg
Hampden Dial


November 20, 2014, 12:56
Bob Rehberg
Hampden case


November 20, 2014, 13:06
David Abbe
Very nice 17J Grade 67 in need of cleaning. The early "Paired Swing" case is probably worth just about as much as the Movement. Altogether, $250.00 "as-is". A good soaking will clean the dial nicely. Overall with the lever set and the "Special Adjusted note this may have succeeded in passing a RR watch Inspector's test in the 1880's. In that case, it was most likely sold in the USA. These Model II movements were generally very early production of the Canton Named movements assembled from parts started and/or finished in the Springfield MA factory.
November 20, 2014, 13:31
Bob Rehberg
Thanks David!
November 20, 2014, 14:00
Paul D. Trombley
I can't make out the serial number. But, considering Hampden serial numbers start at 58,000

This has to be a very early Hampden.

17J, Adjusted, with a micro regulator... very nice.

Hands look good to me... need minor tweaking... the good news is that Hampden dials are much easier to come by than Hamilton, Illinois and South Bend.
November 20, 2014, 14:22
Bob Rehberg
The serial number is 757887. I was previously advised that this is a railroad grade movement so wondering how that impacts the price point...still $250?
November 20, 2014, 15:16
David Abbe
This watch is a 1880's vintage and "Railroad Grade" became actual fact about 10-20 years later. The issue became how well a watchmaker could adjust and time this specific watch to what ever Railroad Time accuracy standards applied at the time on the Railroad where this watch was used.

With 17 Jewels it was entirely possible to bring this movement to those early standards. Most important though is that the overall watch appears to be period authentic in all respects and the side-hinged swing-ring paired case is quite rare and unusual as it is not a Deuber. It is entirely possible that in good, clean running condition, and period hands, this watch would have a collectible value approaching $400.00
November 20, 2014, 16:19
Bila Wirriganwalters
Hi Bob,

A nice watch, just to add to the good info you have already been given around 5,575 of this grade was made. This occurred in 10 production runs and through-out those runs there was 2 varation produced. Your varation was the most produced, 4,025, a model 3 made in 1890.

I would also say that a big thanks must go to all the researchers that have spent time putting this information together so we can have this info at how finger tips, I am most greatfull to them all.

Cheers,
Bila
November 21, 2014, 13:24
Bob Rehberg
Thanks David and Bila! I am not a collector of Pocket Watches, but do appreciate them more than the average Joe. Thought I might have a pretty special case!
November 25, 2014, 13:14
Bob Rehberg
Now for sale on the IHC185 Trading Mart.

For Sale: Fahys coin silver Paired-swing case with 1890 Hampden