If you happen to have an early Hamilton 992B in a Case Model 11 with a HG (Heavy Gothic) dial, here is a potential new home for it currently being offered for sale on eBay by our own Jim "idealtime" Walz:

Click here to view 992B flip-top cigarette box auction

I find this cigarette box interesting for two reasons. First, it has a label with watch info on it and is marked just 992 rather than 992B, so we know it went with an early production 992B. Second, it is a non-standard color, light blue.

I have a flip-top box in my collection with a label like this, except it is the standard ivory color and also has the outer box, so I know that it goes with C20441.

but be prepared..... $$$

ed,

this is how all the flip boxes were marked, without a movement serial number...

and these labels were like this for a while.... then they changed to 992B...


PS,

can you send your label info?

Terry,

I already have an early 992B with the "right" case and dial for this box. The one you pointed to looks to be a nice example and has the correct dial and case, but don't you think its a bit high (C42922) in serial number for the box to be marked "992"?

I emailed you my label info for my inner & outer box set for C20441.

not really.... pic below should help..

and thanks for the numbers... i a behind in posting, so not sure if duplicate, one never knows...

also........ check the image of the box labels here...
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/473108709/m/415106149/r/6361068421#6361068421

you will find C130xxx with the 992 Elinvar Railway Special label...

I think jim said one time it changed a little over C200000........ jim?

every box i have seen with a model 11 has been marked 992.

had and sold one 4 years ago with a blue box & matching outer boxes. it was a 3 digit serial number is all i can remember.

dial was single sunk HG and signed only "Hamilton"

i do believe the watch was all original.

here is a late one....

Jim -

Probably will pass a contemporary 992B by a pretty good margin, and if two bidders decide to fight it out it could go pretty far past.

But one can find a number of 992B's listed to eBay every single day, and we will probably see hundreds more 992B's offered for every one of these colored boxes that are listed.

Fred

so much for every one with a model 11 marked 992

Terry,

That's interesting about the labels on the blue cardboard boxes being marked "992" that long.

What I really meant to get at, but didn't express well, was the longevity of the labels on the plastic cigarette boxes, such as on the auction box and the set I have. How late in the serial numbers did that run?

ed,

because of the "half life" of the adhesive... and the amount of time that has passed for alteration, we may never know..

My example from 1956 did not have a label on the flip box...... i am the second owner... I don't think it ever had one... the rest of the stuff (warranty paper, sealing tape) was there....

There may be correlation of the flip box label with the change in the box label design... but just don't know... and wanna learn......

EPILOGUE: This light blue flip top box closed at $803.11 -- WOW! Congratulations Jim!

Lindell,

Can you please share what dial is listed on your outer box label?

Thank you,

Tref

No need to apologize Lindell. Thanks for filling in yet another piece of our great big puzzle!

Tref