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Show us your Private Label watches!!!

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December 09, 2009, 19:19
Ray Hallenbeck
Show us your Private Label watches!!!
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December 09, 2009, 19:20
Ray Hallenbeck
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December 09, 2009, 20:32
Tom Brown
I was just starting to search for William Kemp & then I realized I had already posted that for you Ray. Nice watch.

Tom
December 10, 2009, 00:05
Ray Hallenbeck
Thanks Tom, and thanks again for the part to keep it running.

Ray
December 10, 2009, 12:54
C. Keith Johnson
How About an Illinois?
"She's Real Fine,My Little 409"
L. W. Suter, Seattle marked movement saved from scrapping of original Factory Gold casing.
Low 1150 production deluxe movement. Diamond, Ruby,Sapphire jewels in raised Gold settings, polished Gold train wheels,Gold balance screws. Double roller, adjusted to 5 positions. Not much originality but a heck of a carry watch for well under $100.


December 10, 2009, 12:57
C. Keith Johnson
Original trashed L.W.Suter dial and replaced dial.


December 10, 2009, 13:13
Tom Brown
This is on Louis Suter from Nome and Seward Peninsula : history, description, biographies and stories

suter

December 10, 2009, 13:27
C. Keith Johnson
Thanks Tom your reference library is the geatest.
You just reminded me that I promised to post pictures of the Waltham M 1857 private label of J.F. Sargent. Mt. Pleasant, Iowa that you researched for me a while back, so here are a couple pictures and another hearty Thank You!
Keith


December 10, 2009, 13:32
C. Keith Johnson
Dial, This is a 15 jewel, Adjusted Waltham Watch Company Grade and is keeping great time.


December 10, 2009, 13:36
C. Keith Johnson
Case.


December 12, 2009, 16:12
Tom Brown
Nice watch Keith!

I am glad you reminded me I had already searched it, I catch myself looking up watches again only to find out I had already had.

Tom
December 12, 2009, 21:54
Ray Hallenbeck
Nice model 57 Keith,

Love the hands...and that case is a beauty.

Ray
December 13, 2009, 12:51
Edward Kitner
Keith,
You have a really great looking mdl 57.
Here is one I have from a jeweler that had a store about 25 miles from where I live.


December 13, 2009, 12:52
Edward Kitner

December 13, 2009, 14:46
Ray Hallenbeck
Nice watch Ed, and only 643 numbers apart from Keiths

Ray
December 15, 2009, 22:39
Bruce Byrd
Here is a Ball Watch marked A.N. Lipold on dial. This is a single roller watch so there is no real place to engrave a name on the movement. There are two names on the rear cover of the pocket watch. This was an ebay find so I dont know if the case had been changed prior to me owning it.




Bruce Byrd
December 15, 2009, 22:40
Bruce Byrd
Here is one of the names on the case back




Bruce Byrd
December 15, 2009, 22:40
Bruce Byrd
and the other name (passed down father to son?.

The guy I bought the watch from said he thought the Hogans were from Ohio..




Bruce Byrd
December 15, 2009, 23:14
Ernie Loga
This is a private label dial I have. It is from a swiss watch with two dial feet. The name on the dial is J. G. Graves Sheffield.


December 17, 2009, 08:10
Tom Brown
John George Graves was born in 1866 in Lincolnshire UK & died in 1945.

Sheffield's Graves Art Gallery and Graves Park are named after local businessman John George Graves. Graves was actually born in Lincolnshire but moved to Sheffield to become an apprentice watchmaker. He established one of the country's first mail order businesses, first selling watches then a whole range of goods. At its peak, the company employed 3,000 people in the city and had an annual turnover of £1m. After his death the company was eventually transferred to Great Universal Stores.

Graves was an avid art collector and bought around 3,000 pictures, mainly 19th century English landscapes. He donated £30,000 towards the building of Sheffield's Central Library and Graves Art Gallery, to which he contributed hundreds of pictures from his private collection. He also paid £27,000 for an extension to join the Mappin Art Gallery with the City Museum so that more of his art collection could be housed there.

Graves donated over £1 million to Sheffield, including money to set up Sheffield University's students Union. He became Sheffield's Lord Mayor and Alderman in 1926 and was given Freedom of the City in 1929. He also made gifts of land to the city, including Graves Park, Ecclesall Woods, Tinsley playing fields, Concord Park and Blacka Moor.

graves

December 17, 2009, 09:46
Ernie Loga
Tom: Wow and Good job, thanks.
December 17, 2009, 10:01
Tom Brown
Your Welcome.

I am still searching for anything on Bruce's watch.
October 06, 2013, 00:10
Ken Habeeb
Tom --

Here is a private-label Hamilton 974, also just posted in the Hamilton research section.

Serial number 1044261.
The seller said it belonged to his uncle.

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October 07, 2013, 22:37
Tom Brown
Charles E. Vail was apparently in business for a long time in Plainfield. It appears he was born in NJ about 1854. I see him listed as a jeweler in the city directories from the 1880's up to the 1930's. He was still listed in the 1940 census as living in Plainfield with his son's family.
October 08, 2013, 22:08
Ken Habeeb
Thank you, Tom. I saw that the Vail family was long-lived, with several members reaching advanced ages at a time when most people didn't.

kh
October 15, 2013, 14:49
Jared Brinker
Here is a recent pick up of mine. From my home state to boot!


October 15, 2013, 14:50
Jared Brinker
And movement shot. A harder to find Hammie Big Grin


October 15, 2013, 15:53
Tom Brunton
got this one yesterday,E.F.Davis Commercial Standard Tillsonburg ,anyone know the maker???


October 15, 2013, 15:58
Tom Brunton
#2


October 16, 2013, 02:05
Ken Habeeb
Tom Brown, I'd be grateful for any information you could dig up about Jos Coleman, the private label namesake of this Hamilton 935.
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October 16, 2013, 02:07
Ken Habeeb
movement:


October 16, 2013, 13:36
Tom Brown
From the movement I see it is marked Massillon Ohio. There was a Joseph Coleman who was born about 1823 in England that is listed as a jeweler in Massillon Ohio in the census records for 1870, 1880, and 1900. In the registration for the draft during the civil war dated 1 July 1863 he is listed as a jeweler in Massillon.
October 16, 2013, 22:25
Ken Habeeb
Thanks Tom. That sounds like a good match, and he must have been successful in his trade.