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Early Hamilton Signed 16sz Case Question

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March 26, 2006, 20:31
Peter S. Balkan
Early Hamilton Signed 16sz Case Question
Funny thing....

I was looking at some cases recently and found a Hamilton signed, 16size shown below.

Does anyone know how and when these cases were used by Hamilton? I wonder why Shugart doesn't include them in the book.


March 26, 2006, 20:40
Tom Huber
Peter, I know the 956 was factory cased in a variety of Hamilton hallmarked cases like yours.

Tom
March 26, 2006, 21:19
Robert M. Sweet
The following 16 size movements were offered "Factory Cased" in the 1918-19 era Hamilton "Timekeeper".

950, 952, 954, 956, 990, 994.

Robert
March 26, 2006, 23:08
Terry Hill
Peter....

These are not an easy find... in good condition...
March 27, 2006, 03:19
Mike Camelin
Peter, yours is from about 1919 from boxed sets I have seen.

These cases were indeed used in the teens as you are hearing on many of the Hamilton models, some were triple hinge and some even made in 14 K Solid Gold.

Hope this helps and Happy Hunting!
March 27, 2006, 06:35
Jim Hanie
Peter,

Hamilton made about 4 early factory cases. The one you are showing is the type I believe were used on the 956. Most all correct 956's that I have seen including boxed examples come in this case.

The 994 were factory cased in the 14K and non gold cases.
March 27, 2006, 07:25
Terry Hill
Peter,
is your example a 'clam shell'...?

(you open the front cover, the the movement swings to the side?)
March 27, 2006, 10:12
Peter S. Balkan
Terry....

Yes, that's exactly how my case opens, it's quite possible that the bow was changed.
March 27, 2006, 10:42
Terry Hill
The Clam Shell case seemed to be offered with the 956 movement...and not often the higher grades

The Swing Ring and the Triple hinge were offered with the higher grade movements according to the catalog page....

Also, the April 1997 article in THE BULLETIN gives some additional info on these cases...
March 27, 2006, 13:05
Lindell V. Riddle

Hope this information is of help to those who might be unfamiliar with these interesting cases.

When opening this case, the bezel rocks forward, being hinged at the 6:00 position. For movement access you then carefully insert your thumbnail or sharp case-knife on the edge of the movement ring in a cut-out located by the 3:00 position. The ring which holds the movement swings to the left being hinged at the 9:00 position.

Below Hamilton factory case number 10618872 with "Hamilton Watch Co., Lancaster, Pa." along with the Hamilton crest and "Guaranteed 25 Years" markings.


Here is one opened up to show how these work...


March 27, 2006, 14:07
Mike Camelin
The clamshells were used mainly on the lesser grades and not usually the high grades, but they are still neat cases and being they are old cases, finding any of them in good or better condition is a hard thing to do.

Also, Lindell, yours probably dates to 1919 as well, although I do have a couple very close in serial number to yours that are late 1919 or early 1920 and one, only a few thousand numbers different from your case is engraved 10/7/20 which is probably/obviously when it was sold by the jeweler. The clams are neat in design and I wish more were still with us and not worn away. Happy "early Hamilton case" Hunting!
March 27, 2006, 18:07
Terry Hill
Let's try it now...... ok working...
This is a scan from Ehrhardt's book, attributed to 1913... of course it is showing only a triple hinge....


March 27, 2006, 18:10
Terry Hill
And here is Ehrhardt scan from "Red Book" circa 1919...


March 27, 2006, 20:39
Robert M. Sweet
The Hamilton Model 956 from 1918-19 "Timekeeper".

Robert


March 27, 2006, 21:36
Terry Hill
Tom,
Often times, yellow and green or white will have 'different' serial number sequences...

don't know why though....
March 27, 2006, 22:46
Charles R. Sides
Ham clam shell # 10124230 on 996 #1182865
Engine turning is worn, but no brass.

I have another, but can't find it. Better condition, but has a guys name in the inside back lid.
March 27, 2006, 23:13
Ethan Lipsig
Here is a 1911 Hamilton 950 (SS # 785,630) with a 14k solid gold Hamilton factory triple hinged case # 6415033.


March 28, 2006, 02:27
Mike Camelin
Ethan, It appears your watch is original. Or I should say movement original to the case, movement dating to a finishing date of 1911 by the Gelson list and the case is a dead on match by serial number of the same year when compared to boxed sets I have seen.
March 29, 2006, 01:46
Ethan Lipsig
The factory markings inside.


March 29, 2006, 01:47
Ethan Lipsig
More markings.


March 30, 2006, 07:25
Terry Hill
Nice gold case!

I will make an attempt to dig out the top hinge examples I have.. to me, the style and appearance is contemporary with the other examples...

.
March 30, 2006, 19:46
Terry Hill
Here is a swing ring (swinging up towards pendant)... this one has a 952 in it...engine turned back...


March 30, 2006, 19:47
Terry Hill
and the markings...


March 30, 2006, 19:48
Terry Hill
Here is a second one, swing ring, swing towards pendant... ET back... it has a 990...


March 30, 2006, 19:49
Terry Hill
and the mark


March 30, 2006, 19:49
Terry Hill
just 4 fun


March 30, 2006, 19:51
Terry Hill
this is a CLAMSHELL.... swing DOWN Bezel, swing to the side center ring


March 30, 2006, 19:52
Terry Hill
Clamshell markings...


March 30, 2006, 19:54
Terry Hill
Just a lowly 956 Big Grin

This example has had the hinge repaired... when I got it, it was a "pair case"... * the hinge was broken *


March 30, 2006, 19:55
Terry Hill
Now here is a triple hinge... reeded center ring, engine turned back...lever cut


March 30, 2006, 19:56
Terry Hill
curvette...


March 30, 2006, 19:57
Terry Hill
marking...

it has a 950....


March 30, 2006, 20:38
Robert M. Sweet
Terry,

Thanks for sharing your nice selection of cases.

Robert