I have a old Aunt that lives near Dallas. She collects old Pocket Watches (Most of them are dolar watches, but she don't care).

Last Month she sent me some watches that were not working. I finally got into them and came across a very PLAIN looking Waltham. Cracked dial without even a single "sink".

Here is a picture, What would you have thought?

Face

Back

WHAT a surprise when I unscrewed the back:

Model 1892 VANGUARD 18's 23 Jewel from 1901.
S/N 10545889

Sweet sleeper !

It has a bad Staff; even so, it's a wonderful find. I called my Aunt and she can't remember where she got it.

In any case I was assured that when she passes away that I will inherent the Pocket Watches!

I will have this one fixed and kiss it goodbye (for now).

I promise you I would have had no idea this was GREAT movement by looking at the dial and the case. It makes me wonder what I have missed not bidding on the watches on E Bay that does not show the movement.

Does anyone know if this was the proper dial for this watch in 1902?

Very nice Kevin. I would think the original dial would be a double sunk one.
Roger

I agree with Roger, should be double sunk and being a hunter, a good chance of having roman numerals with the outer red second chapter.

Thank You Rodger and Bila.

I thought as much. I looked us some pictures on the Pocket Watch Data Base and I did not find a hunter but all the others had a very nice double sunk dial. I can not conceive of why anyone would have put this dial on this movement.

Nothing that can't be fixed!

Kevin its simple back in days it was just a tool
when dial got damage what ever was available was put on,today we look at it as collector item and want it in original condition as much as possible.

That is a very nice surprise. Regarding dial, does Waltham have a different foot configuration for 1892 dials and HC dials in particular? It's been a while since I shopped for them but it seems that was the case.

Mike, according to the 1909 Waltham Parts Catalogue the 1892 dials fit both hunter and open face.

For 1883's the OF and Htg dials are different.

Here is a update on this watch.

I sent the watch to Paul Davis who replaced the staff and a jewel and cleaned the case. I found a double sunk dial from a friend on the East Coast and put it on the watch this weekend.

On Monday I wound the watch and sent it back to my old Aunt in Texas. The watch arrived today at noon still running!

My Aunt and Uncle can't believe it is the same watch. I left the back a little loose so they could see the movement; boy, were they impressed!

Thanks to Paul for doing such a great job repairing this watch. Have no doubt my Uncle and Aunt will treasure it for the rest of there days! My Aunt is 82 and my Uncle is 87.

Great to hear Kevin.
Roger