Internet Horology Club 185
Illinois Bunn Special

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July 14, 2010, 11:28
Keith Klimkowicz
Illinois Bunn Special
Hi All

I just purchased this Bunn Special and would like more information on this dial. It is Metal Dial with the hour markers pointing out. I looked this up in the Illinois book and it is listed as a "Butler Center Silver Dial". What movement should this dial be on? What year did the dial come out? Any other info would be great.

Thanks


July 14, 2010, 11:45
David Abbe
Keith, The hands look right, the case is great, and the dial is in very good condition. It may be all "original", what is the serial number of the movement?
July 14, 2010, 11:54
Keith Klimkowicz
Hi Dave

To be honest with you I purchased this watch without seeing the movement. I should have it in about two weeks. That is why I posted this to discuss what may be inside. It was described as a 21j Bunn Special. Should it be a 60 hr? or just a late serial numbered 21j Bunn Special.
July 14, 2010, 15:38
David Abbe
Some of the case features are similar to the Illinois 193 case. I think the dial and hands could be "correct" for that period. Better to wait until the watch arrives and also I hope there are some more posts from the Expert Illinoisian's.
July 14, 2010, 15:54
Lindell V. Riddle

That is definitely an Illinois Bunn Special "First Model" case.

Everything in that picture look right to be a 1924-1930 watch, most likely the lower or at most mid-area of those years. In my opinion when these metal dials are found on apparently original watches like this one they should remain as-found. We will know more once the movement number and case number along with exact case markings become available, from that information we can then easily narrow it down.

This one looks like a prime example from what we can see at this point.

Lindell

Wink

July 14, 2010, 18:06
Steve Middlesworth
Keith,

If the first 2 digits of the serial number are between 43 and 46 then that could be a correct case for it as these Bunn Specials could have come from the factory cased. The dials were also available with the metal Butler finish as well.

You can check the case numbers in our database when you get the watch and see how they fit in.

Wadworth Bunn Special Database

Steve
July 14, 2010, 18:45
Steve Middlesworth
Keith,

Here is one I spotted that looks to be the same as yours. First four digits are 4452.

Steve


July 22, 2010, 17:05
Keith Klimkowicz
Hi All

Watch just arrived. The 21j Bunn Special serial #4392730 and the 14k green gold filled case #7034760, which fits into the list for an early 1924 production. I am surprised that the case is a green gold filled. The case is marked 14k, gold, filled, Wadsworth, Quality, Pat's Pend'g and the serial number. The serial number is in a "V" shape. I will try to post pictures later.

Keith


July 27, 2010, 16:45
Keith Klimkowicz
Hi All

In the big book of Illinois watch encyclopedia it list as part of the description "(EA 471)". What does this refer to?

Thanks

Keith
July 27, 2010, 17:36
Steve Middlesworth
Keith,

Roy Ehrhardt had an EA number for every Illinois movement. It was kind of a code and could be referenced in the Illinois Book. Here you can see your EA471 movement called out as a Model 9 and all the information pertaining to it.

Steve