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watch case [Flag with Star inside]

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December 09, 2013, 20:52
Bill Manders
watch case [Flag with Star inside]
I have this real nice looking hunter case, and from a previous topic, it has been thought to be a Dueber case, but I could find no follow up on whether it actually was or not. It shows a flag with a star in it, with no other markings. In the previous post it listed it with the word Golden above it. Can this be positively identified as a Dueber case and does anyone know what the composition is of it, plate, filled, etc.
Thanks for any help on this one.
Bill


December 09, 2013, 21:24
Lorne Wasylishen
This is the closest I can find Bill. The date is Apr. 19 1905


December 09, 2013, 21:39
Jon Hart
Close?


December 09, 2013, 21:41
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.
Bill,

It's a Dueber logo alright, an example exactly like yours is shown on page 58 of Ehrhardt's Trade Mark book.


Best Regards,

Ed
December 09, 2013, 23:10
Bill Manders
Thanks Ed and Lorne, does anyone know if it is plated or filled and the content ?
Bill
December 10, 2013, 17:33
Norman Mayberry
I have a case with a flag in a star inside the cuvette.The back cover is signed Warranted 25 years,F.W.C.Co.Inside front lid is signed FahysNo.1,14k.So is this a Fahys ,a Dueber or what?I tried to get pictures but it is so shiny they don,t turn out.Regards.Norm
December 10, 2013, 17:52
Norman Mayberry
Took some quick pictures.Maybe some one can figure this one out.Thanks Norm


December 10, 2013, 17:52
Norman Mayberry
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December 10, 2013, 17:53
Norman Mayberry
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December 10, 2013, 17:53
Norman Mayberry
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December 10, 2013, 17:54
Norman Mayberry
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December 10, 2013, 17:55
Peter Kaszubski
Norman your case looks very nice and original but
I see more and more of those frankencases
back cover from one case co. and the dust cover from original case as the outer case get worn out some smart arshes replace the outer cover.
December 10, 2013, 18:21
Bill Manders
Norm,
Like yours my insignia is on the cuvette, there is no marks at all on either the front or rear cases.
I think that maybe it is a Dueber as most collectors seem to have seen that insignia, and it is in print in the book Ed referred to. My concern was if I go to sell it I want to be correct and not have any hassle.
Yours is a nice looking case, but has 25 yr on one cover 14K on another, so maybe Peter is right with someone putting a case together.
Bill
December 10, 2013, 18:22
Norman Mayberry
Hi Peter,I've been looking closer at it and there are no serial numbers on the case.Also compared the Fahys signature to another Fahys case and at the least mine is counterfit.Oh well,its a nice locomotive case.Norm
December 10, 2013, 18:27
Norman Mayberry
Hi Bill,I must have been posting as you were.I don't think the case has been tampered with.I think it was made that way.I didn't look real close at it until now and decided it's probably a Swiss fake.I bought it cause it's"Purdy".Norm
December 10, 2013, 18:45
Barry Hanstein
Bill:

I have had a number of cases marked like this that have a gold filled appearance but are actually brass with no gold content.


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December 10, 2013, 19:28
Theodore J. Brown Sr.
Hi Bill, as Barry said, this is likely a Dueber brass case.I have an 18s Hunter case with the same mark, mine is brass for sure.I think when these brass cases were made, some had a real thin gold plating on them which wore right off....Regards, Ted.
December 11, 2013, 01:35
Bill Manders
Thanks guys,
This case is likely the nicest looking case I have, the design is like new, and does look like gold, Likely as you say it might have a thin gold plate. I guess I will just not put a daily carry in it as I don't want it to show wear.
Thanks,
Bill