Internet Horology Club 185
Hamlton 943--just how scarce are these?

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January 16, 2010, 16:48
Gregory S. Hall
Hamlton 943--just how scarce are these?
I am a big fan of Illinois & Hamlton pocketwatches. Although I have focused on 16s watches I have also collected some 18s Ball & Hamlton watches. One of my long term collecting goals was to have a fully marked example of a 946, 940, 941, 942 and 943. I have the 940 and 941, a 946 that is not fully marked and a 942 that is unmarked. In all my searches on ebay, the internet and marts I have yet to encounter any 943 much less a fully marked example for sale. Until a little over a year ago I had never even seen a photo of any 943 movement, then one day a colleague and I were talking and I mentioned that I collected pocketwatches. He told he had inherited a nice large Hamilton pocketwatch in a solid gold case from his grandfather and asked if I would be willing to look at it for him to tell him what it might be worth. Smile You betcha I would. SO a few days later he brings his watch to work to show it to me. He had mentioned that he thought it was a 23 jewel watch. So here it is, a beautiful old watch, yep in a nice solid gold case--a hunter case (so I'm thinking well this is no 946 and by now I'm thinking it is probably a 941). I open the hinged case back and what do I find, a fully marked 943--the only 943 I have ever seen much less had the privilege of holding. Needless to say I was excited and though technically it is valued less than a 946 or certainly less than a rare 947, but it is still to my way of thinking a very scarce watch. I have had this same feeling about the 991--both are listed as 1 star rarities in the Shugart guide, but jeeze you just don't see them, ever!! From my perception they should be 2 star watches and should probably be valued more--any ideas or input welcome.
And no I didn't try to buy it off my colleague as it is a family piece--I did tell him that if he ever did desire to sell it to give me a call first, but that if I were him I would hang on to it and take good care of it because it is a really scarce watch.
January 16, 2010, 18:34
Tony Dukes
Gregory,
If you will type in Hamilton 943 in the search category on this site you can see a pic of my 943. It had been on my wish list for a long time.

https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...086047761/m/99710279

Tony
January 16, 2010, 19:18
Lindell V. Riddle

Nice item Greg, you can tell your friend that according to listings in the Ehrhardt Hamilton book between 1900 and 1908 a mere 2,399 of the grade 943 were produced. For most of that time hunters were still accepted on most North American Railroads, in fact many railroad men preferred them which might account for the low survival rate.

A very desirable and difficult to find item.

Lindell

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