I am working on a 12s Howard 23 jewel & I have a question about the jewel locations.

I notice on the 16s it shows different locations for the 22 & 23 jewel such as the motor barrel or banking pins.

The one I am working on has the jeweled banking pins & since the book doesn't mention the different locations of the jewels for the 12s did they all have the ruby banking pins.

Thanks
Tom

Well I got it finished & I thought I would share a few photos, looks like perhaps a perfect metal dial & very nice case with a stiff bow.

Tom

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Lindell

Thanks for the comments, I am amazed too at the locations they put different jewels at, I also try to imagine them making the parts & then putting them together. I know if I were to try to attach jewels to banking pins I would get 1 out of every 100 in place. I guess I would last to long in the factory.

Tom

I was thinking that the stamp may have been a service mark by a thoroughly modern watchmaker. Who knows. Sometimes the questions are more interesting than the answers!

A most beautiful and interesting watch, Tom. Thanks for sharing it.

This is an old thread, but Tom, I was wondering if the jeweled banking pins you photographed in the first message above came from a 23j, 12s, Howard? Or did it come from a 16s Howard?

Mike

The photo of the banking pins was from a 23 jewel 12s Howard.

Tom

So this watch would be on a par with other 12S 23-jewel models, such as the Hamilton 922, Illinois Ariston, Lord Elgin, or South Bend 431.

Well I think the powers that be should at least create another line in the fat book for 23j, 12s Howards that have ruby banking pins - unless they all have ruby pins. This is what they did for 16s, 23J Howards (SOME of which have ruby pins, and some of which do not).

May be wrong but believe all of the 12s 23 jewel Howards have ruby banking pins.

I just checked 3 - 23j, size 12 Howards. They all have ruby banking pins, and the barrel arbors are not jeweled. So it makes sense that if the winding arbor is not jeweled, something else has to have 2 jewels if they are going to call it a 23 jewel movement.

Jewel banking pins-the ultimate "smokestack" jewels! Nice Howard, Tom.Not being a watchmaker, I've always wondered if a lot of those type pins got broken off during repair work.They'd have to be pretty fragile. Best regards, Ted.

Tom.
A very nice job, you must be proud of this little beauty, I'v not really looked at Howards untill now. I will be looking out for them in the future when looking for new projects, thanks for sharing this one.
Regards Ian.