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A Look Beneath The Surface

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May 06, 2013, 22:36
Eric Unselt
A Look Beneath The Surface
For some of our newer members who may have never seen such things I thought I'd post one of Waltham's rarest watches in a state of disassembly - the two-tone 21-jewel Model 92 Crescent Street.

A recent Jones-Horan 2013 score, it starts with just the pillar plate. Note the incredible detail imparted with the different perlage radii on one of the parts nobody ever sees - and the fact that even the pillar plate is two-tone.


May 06, 2013, 22:36
Eric Unselt
Adding the train, the train plate, the barrel, and the setting clutch is the next step.

Even the lower balance cock is perlaged and two-tone. Note the pattern in the balance well.


May 06, 2013, 22:37
Eric Unselt
Next is the barrel plate, the winding wheels, the click, and everything under the dial.


May 06, 2013, 22:37
Eric Unselt
Cased and running with the balance wheel in place. There are two variants of this movement that I know of - one with gold inlay in the lettering and filigree, and one with black.

Find the keys and hit the gas. Cool


May 06, 2013, 22:37
Eric Unselt
Front it with a flawless double-sunk Arabic dial and matching set of spade hands ...


May 06, 2013, 22:37
Eric Unselt
... and you have one of the crown jewels in any serious Waltham collection.

This watch was an absolute pleasure to dismantle, clean, oil, and reassemble. All the serial numbers matched and not a part was missing - not even the dust band. It was delightfuly tacky and gunky, which meant nobody had messed with it in the last 30 years or so; precisely what we all look for as collectors.


May 06, 2013, 23:44
Evan Patton
Wow what a beauty! Thanks!
May 07, 2013, 00:13
Larry Lamphier
Great Looking Waltham!

Thanks Eric!

Regards,
Larry
May 07, 2013, 04:44
Krister Olsson
Thanks for sharing this beauty with us Eric!

Regards, Krister.
May 07, 2013, 07:01
Phillip Sanchez
Eric, great work on a beautiful piece. Good man.
May 07, 2013, 08:15
Jim Bielefeldt
Thanks for sharing, 92's are one of my favorite Walthams.
I am always amazed when I see the attention to detail in areas that most people will never see. Like in the winding gear train of an 18s Appleton Tracy I cleaned. The Yoke and screw head had a mirror finish. But they sits behind the dial and almost no one will see them.
May 07, 2013, 09:40
Roger J. Nolfe
Gorgeous! Smile
May 07, 2013, 10:39
William D. White
Holy Cow! America's Finest!

William
May 07, 2013, 11:04
Edward Kitner
A great find Eric!
May 07, 2013, 14:47
Richard M. Jones
A study in craftsmanship!


Deacon
May 07, 2013, 15:05
Tim Poovey
Eric, nice looking watch. Easy to see that a lot of labor went into those watches. Wouldn't it be amazing to see the price of that watch today, based on the cost of labor today.

Enjoy,
Tim
May 07, 2013, 15:34
Evan Patton
Well, Pateks go for $10s to $100s of thousands, and they have similar workmanship, abeit on a smaller scale.

There's an American company, RGM, hand-crafting in-house wrist watch movements that sell for ~$20k and up that also have similar workmanship.

RGM Watch Company

So there is definitely a market for these today, and they probably sell more than the ~100 that Waltham sold back in the day.


May 07, 2013, 15:45
Evan Patton
Here's a pic of their flagship tourbillon watch--only $95k!

Apologies to Eric for thread hijacking. I now return you to your regularly schedule drool fest... Wink


May 07, 2013, 21:20
John Beale
Beautiful pictorial, Eric.
May 08, 2013, 08:21
Ray Hallenbeck
Stunning watch, and as always the photos are amazing
May 08, 2013, 12:45
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.
That's true gem Eric! Finding a watch like this that no amateur mechanic has messed with is an added plus, it doesn't get much better than that.Smile


Best Regards,

Ed
May 09, 2013, 08:43
Eric Unselt
Thanks, boys Smile
May 16, 2013, 22:24
Eric Wells
That watch is way beyond exquisite, Eric. One of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Thanks.


Eric Wells
May 17, 2013, 11:30
Mike Hodge
I really hesitate to insert one of my photos in a post where Eric has one of his. Overlooking the photographer skills for a moment, is the lettering black, or gold? This watch was never, as far as I know, painted in the lettering after market. After service you can see the black has washed away in spots to leave what appears to be gold lettering


May 17, 2013, 19:51
Eric Unselt
Ah, the zebra question - black on white or vice versa?

Mike, since the "default" color on two-tone plating is goldtone (same as the plates), I gotta believe the lettering and filigree start as gold-colored, and then in both your example and mine they get filled in with black enamel. I wish one of those old coots that worked for one of the American companies was still around so we could ask him.