Internet Horology Club 185
Illinois George Washington 18s info

This topic can be found at:
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1086047761/m/5893915197

May 16, 2018, 16:36
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Illinois George Washington 18s info
I need a little help from some of you Illinois experts. Does the George Washington 18s movement have a special dial or is the dial just signed "Illinois Watch Co."? The serial number is 137407.

Thanks,
Harry
May 16, 2018, 17:54
Kevin Hoffman
Hi Harry , is that the Illinois G/Washington with 3 stars ? ! I looked in the images of close serial numbers and they had either a blank dial or Illinois watch co , lets see what the experts have to say , by the way did you need a dial ?
May 16, 2018, 18:16
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Hi Kevin, yes that is the 3 star movement. If the dial is correct then I do not need one. Is this the correct dial?


May 16, 2018, 19:19
Kevin Hoffman
Let's see what the experts say , I have a later one with that dial , and just picked up 309150 an early bunn with the "cursive english" script, I am not sure , I would love to see a list of what dial goes to what,the watch choppers have made it tough
May 16, 2018, 19:52
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Yes you are right and the way they chop up watches now you are lucky to even find a rare watch or any watch for that matter with a dial. The dial looks pretty old so I believe it is probably period correct. I just want to make sure that they did not have a dial that was signed George Washington.
May 16, 2018, 23:15
Roger Stephens
Harry, I would say it is correct. My research using
the Illinois cd does not say what dial would be on
it. I believe yours to be period correct and probably correct for that movement.

Roger
May 17, 2018, 11:08
Buster Beck
The early 1880 Key wind, Model 1, Gilt, Unadjusted Columbia Grade movements, signed Geo. Washington are rarely seen or discussed. Little is known of them. Show us some pictures please.

regards,
bb
May 17, 2018, 22:24
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you Roger and Buster. Roger I believe like you the dial is period correct and probably the original but not knowing much about Illinois I was hoping someone might know. Buster I only have the movement and the picture above is the dial side of the movement and I will post the movement side now. The Price Guide says it is a 3 star watch but it does not have a very high value considering it is only three stars and I assume that is because it is a Columbia grade.


May 17, 2018, 23:57
Buster Beck
I imagine that you are correct Harry. I believe the "Geo. Washington" signed movements were merely a sales approach by Illinois, which they commonly did.

The movement retains most of its originality and gilt tone, very nice.

regards,
bb