February 10, 2009, 13:29
Andrea SchiaviWALTHAM MOD.1857 EXCELSIOR 15J IS RARE??
HELLO,
I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY KNOWS HOW MANY WALTHAM,MODEL 1857,15JEWELS,EXCELSIOR,SIGNED ON THE MOVEMENT'MADE ONLY FOR HOWARD & CO. NEW YORK-FIFTH AVENUE" HAVE BEEN MADE.IT LOOKS LIKE NON MANY BUT cOMPLETE PRICE GUIDE TO WATCHES GIVES A VALUE OF $100-185-300 WITH NO STARS.
I HAVE SEEN ONLY VERY FEW AROUND.ANY CLUE?
THANK YOU

ANDREA
February 18, 2009, 09:12
Andrea SchiaviThere is one on Ebay right now:
Item number 330307373118, but it is not "excelsior"
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February 18, 2009, 13:40
David AbbeAccording to the "Gold Book", Waltham made three "Excelsior" movements, and 2 of them were 18s (the other was 14s). There is a considerable disparity between Shugarts price guide ($100 - $150.00

) and the 1980's Ehrhardt/Meggers valuation of the 1857 model watch. I would (given the circumstances) go with the Gold book and estimate from their valuation of $250.00 in the 1980's, to least a 2*-3* rare model now collectible at US$500.00 - US$1500.00 depending on case and condition. On the other hand if it is an 1877 model, it would be much less.
February 18, 2009, 13:42
David AbbeThe correct movement is Number 16 pictured here;
February 18, 2009, 15:06
Andrea SchiaviDavid,
Thank you very much for your detailed informations!It is always a pleasure to learn from you,thank you Maestro!

Andrea