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Elgin Streamline Models/Grades

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March 28, 2013, 13:05
Bill Myre
Elgin Streamline Models/Grades
Where can I find a list of model/grade numbers (ie: 452, 479, etc)for Elgin's streamline series, and what is the particular significance of the 5 pointed star (solid pentagram) on the dial? Thank you, Bill
March 28, 2013, 13:07
Christopher Darwin
The star was added to the dial as part of Elgin's "timed by the stars" promotion.
March 28, 2013, 13:22
Bill Myre
I have read that also but have heard the five pointed star or pentagram had additional significance and wondered if that was just an old "wives tale."
March 28, 2013, 15:02
Buster Beck
Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. had an observatory on their grounds as early as 1915 and promoted the fact that it was used to " check the rating of the Elgin Master Clock " by which all Elgin watches were regulated. This advertising theme continued that year and through the early 1920's.

In 1933, Elgin started using a "Star" to symbolize their watches being " Timed to the Stars ", according to the 1935 trade mark registration. The star was placed on the dials by the late 1930's and that campaign continued in 1940, referring to the watches as being " timed directly to the standard of the stars ". This star appeared on dials of presentation watches, as well as on the dials of railroad standard watches. This practice continued into World War II, and after the war the "star timed accuracy" slogan continued to be used.

The earliest of the BWRaymond Grade #571 watches [late 1940's] were fitted with dials having the star along with the then new "dp" DuraPower mainspring symbol. Use of the star disappeared shortly thereafter, when Elgin started putting the "BW Raymond" name on the dials.

regards,
bb
March 28, 2013, 16:29
Gerald Zimmermann
Some more information about the Elgin obsertvatory

Gerald
March 28, 2013, 18:51
Bill Myre
Thank you Buster and Gerald...the info on the Elgin star is much appreciated. Now if I can only locate a listing for the Elgin streamline movements and a little more info about them I will have my curiosity satisfied.