Internet Horology Club 185
Non Existant Elgin??
December 27, 2010, 12:12
Bud MellessNon Existant Elgin??
Hi everybody;
I've just come across something odd. At least to me it looks odd.
I was looking at this watch and I typed the serial number 
90890611 into the Elgin serial number database and it comes back with "No watches found"
Can this really happen? Did it not get listed when it was made or what's the story here. Oh, and 
90890677 doesn't work either.
Any help would really be appreciated.
Bud
 December 27, 2010, 12:16
Claude GriffithBud if you do it the other way the results are shown below. 11,906,806.  It is a 17j 3 finger brige grade 339.
Serial Number   SN Range RunQty Name Year grade size code   jewels Adj/reg/etc.
--------------  -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------
      11906806  11906501    500      1904 339*   16s hbn6p     17j e
    first run of grade 339;  306 of 50500 in grade
grade total runs   first yr  last yr class  size  code   jewels Adj/name
----- ----- -----  --------  ------- -----  ----  ------ ------ ----------
339   50500  38        1904     1909  107    16s  hbn6p     17j
December 27, 2010, 12:16
Bud MellessOops!!! I think I just discovered why it doesn't show up. I think the serial number is: 11906806
I thought they (the serial numbers) would read correctly the way it is presented on the movement but I guess this one is UPSIDE DOWN. Am I right about this? Is this the answer to why it didin't show up in the Elgin database?
Bud
December 27, 2010, 12:17
Bud MellessYep, I think you're absolutely right. What a dumbell I am. Don't tell anyone, will you Claude?
Cheers
Bud
December 27, 2010, 12:18
Richard RomeroBud,
It looks like 11906806. Give that a try.
RR
December 27, 2010, 12:19
Bud MellessHi Richard;
Yep, I did, and thanks.
Boy, do I feel like a DORK!! Ha ha
Bud
December 27, 2010, 12:22
Richard RomeroOops didn't see the earlier post. Boy that was quick Claude.
RR
December 27, 2010, 12:25
Phillip SanchezDon't worry Bud, No one saw it. 

December 27, 2010, 12:28
Jerry KingRight Bud, we just skimmed right over this one.... but don't worry about it, we have all done that.... 

Nice watch also, Bud....
Regards,
Jerry
December 27, 2010, 12:40
Bud MellessThanks Phil, and you too Jerry.
You know I kept looking at the two "1"'s at the end (or beginning) of the number and thinking to myself, could they be 7's maybe? That's when it hit me to stand on my head and look.
Bud
December 27, 2010, 12:44
Claude GriffithI just figured it was too much "spiked" holiday egg-nog. Depending on the potency of the egg-nog the numbers start doing all sort of things!!!!  The 339 was a nice mid-grade Elgin 3 finger bridge, not adjusted, no steel escape wheel, no gold train, pendant set hunter but when properly serviced they are a good running and a nice looking movement.  If you like the bridge movements some nice one to pick up would be the 280 or it rarer marked twin the BWR 3 finger.  some like the 241, 244 were adjusted and if you jump into Doilie variations 243 or 246 seen at this location 
Elgin Lace DoiliesDecember 27, 2010, 16:22
Bud MellessHi Claude;
I must say I do like those finger bridge movements, and I may even buy this one so I can get an idea how they look in my hand.
Thanks for the tips on these as well Claude.
Bud
December 27, 2010, 17:15
Jim BielefeldtI really like the 3 finger movements. I would love to have one of those lace doilies. Now that I know they exist I will be on the lookout.
December 27, 2010, 18:58
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.Don't feel bad Bud, I once saw a 185 member perflexed by what he thought was a 17-jewel watch that he couldn't find in the serial number tables. 
Turns out he was reading "21" upside down  as "17" . . . 

 
 Best Regards,
Ed   
December 27, 2010, 19:01
Robert V. JonesThat is ok Bud I wont mention the time when I first started and thought I was buying a Hamilton 966 when it was actually marked 996
December 27, 2010, 19:09
Buster BeckSomeone said they would be on the lookout for a "lace doily". Well look no further than right here on ihc; 
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...46095371/m/402106433                       regards,
                          bb
December 27, 2010, 20:18
Jim BielefeldtI said that Buster, but if I pay $500 for a watch after Christmas my wife would strangle me.   

December 29, 2010, 14:40
Mark CrossI remember YEARS ago doing this exact same thing, and one of our members suggested I turn my monitor upside down and re-reading the numbers so I could find the right date. They were right too! 

Regards! Mark