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What Type Of Case Do We Have

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October 03, 2013, 20:03
Keith Klimkowicz
What Type Of Case Do We Have
Take a look at this case. No Name, and see how it opens. The front opens the same way. Kind of strange?

This is first one like it, I have seen.

Welcome comments.

All pictures are from the _bay Auction.


October 03, 2013, 20:04
Keith Klimkowicz
Case back.

Pat. 1888?


October 03, 2013, 20:05
Keith Klimkowicz
Front


October 03, 2013, 20:25
Bila Wirriganwalters
Could be wrong Keith and probably am, but I think these were classed as a dustproof case.
October 03, 2013, 20:43
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
You're right it is a strange case. I have seen it a time or two but did not think much about it. I like odd stuff though and I think this is odd.
October 03, 2013, 20:45
Eric Unselt
I've heard them called internal-thread cases, Keith. I've got a couple of them - the movement is mounted in a holding ring and then loaded from the back. Then there is a threaded locking ring to keep the movement in place before the back cover gets threaded into the case frame. There is no front bezel; the crystal is glued right into the case.

One of my Seths showing that big locking ring (red arrow):


October 03, 2013, 20:46
Eugene Buffard
I have always heard they are sewer lid cases.
October 03, 2013, 20:47
Lorne Wasylishen
I think Bila is correct. I have one like the one in this ad (GF) and I don't think they were too popular as the covers are a bit of a pain to screw on/off. Is yours the same, threads on the outside of the back and bezel? The ad is from 1890.


October 03, 2013, 21:53
Roger Stephens
I also have one of these cases and heard them referred to as bezelless cases.
Roger

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October 03, 2013, 22:23
Keith Klimkowicz
Lorne

You hit it right on the head with that ad. The pat. date is 1888, so it is in line with the ad's date. Both the front and back screw in flush. I can see if they got dirty it would be hard to screw on/off. This is a silveroid case. Your ad states that these are Canadian made case, which with the 24hr dial would make it a correct combination watch.

This is so cool, Thanks for that information.

ps Lorne is there any way you could make a PDF of that ad and email to me? jac4ky@aol.com

Thanks all for outstanding work and information!

Regards
Keith
October 04, 2013, 10:34
Lorne Wasylishen
Keith, yes I will send you the ad.(Sent Oct.4)
October 05, 2013, 19:50
Larry Buchan
I have one in my collection a Jas Boss 14K Gold Filled with its original watch paper.

Larry


October 06, 2013, 13:45
Keith Klimkowicz
Thanks Lorne got the file...

Larry that is cool, I like when the case paper work is still intact.

The case cleaned-up nice and the watch I got running.
Wish the wife would bring home the camera from work, so I can post pictures...

Regards
Keith
October 06, 2013, 17:16
Larry Buchan
Keith look forward to seeing the photos of your case, I will take some more pictures of mine and post them later, and Lorne great research on the American Watch Case Co. Advertisement I copied that from my records too

Larry
October 20, 2013, 09:48
Peter Nicholson
I found one of these in one of my 'bits' boxes. It's a Silveroid case.


October 20, 2013, 09:50
Peter Nicholson
The main body of the case has a captive 'copper' liner.


October 20, 2013, 09:51
Peter Nicholson
The front and rear bezels shown partially screwed in place.


October 20, 2013, 09:56
Peter Nicholson
The biggest problem I found with this case was that the front cover was very difficult to remove as there is very little of the bezel to grip and the crystal turns rather than the bezel.