February 10, 2009, 12:24
Mario PaganiHelp on a Seth Thomas please
I do like Seth Thomas, both clocks and PWs, but I don't know much about Seth PWs. Can you kindly give me some info about this ? It should be a model 6, 18s, but that's all I know
Thanks a lot
February 10, 2009, 15:34
Cecil McGeeHey Mario,
You are right,it is a model 6,18 size,looks to be 7 jewels,and made in 1909.
February 10, 2009, 17:06
David AbbeMario, This looks like a nice example of a well-trained" (pun intended

) movement design that migrated all through the "low-end" watches. You will see the same idea on Seth 16s and 18s, and also Trenton, New York Standard, and their sub-names. They are all "flashbacks" to some early ideas that were done by Waltham, etc.
The Balance Jewels are press fit, no jewel screws so the "end-shake" can be adjusted right at assembly by the "swiss" method. That makes these easy to get going, but they are only a 1/2-step above "Dollar" watches, for quality of time.
I see this design as made by Seth Thomas as the most "respectable" one because it IS a Seth Thomas and they clean up nicely.
February 10, 2009, 17:17
David AbbeThis one stays within 2 minutes a day, very good for the design.
February 10, 2009, 17:25
Mario PaganiDavid, pleasure reading you. My sweet tooth for Seth came out of a heaxgon Drop Dial (Nov. 1881) and a Mark1 Deck Clock, 1942, this one sitting on the wall, just opposite to me, with its black bakelyte porthole, and their incredible precision. You are absolutely right as far as design, but then ... IS a Seth Thomas, as you say.
February 10, 2009, 17:27
Cecil McGeeHey David,
What is your opinion of the model 5 Seth? I have owned several of those 1/2 step above dollar watches,and found them to be very reliable timekeepers,and if you have the interest,which I do,they can with a little patience,be adjusted to be very accurate watches. I started out years ago,collecting NYS watches,and while I don't have many anymore,I still hold onto the more rare models of NYS,and all the model 5 Seth Thomas,that I can get.