Internet Horology Club 185
A. Lincoln

This topic can be found at:
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1086047761/m/463109641

August 20, 2009, 13:04
Michael L. Keirsey
A. Lincoln
Recently a friend of mine offered to sell me a 16s 21j A. Lincoln. Dial is perfect. Watch runs and keeps time + or - a few minits in 3 days.
The watch has not been serviced in years.It is in a verry ornate case with the only wear i can detect is just the top of the bow. Movement is running strong . I have seen several on ebay and the price,s are everwhere . Do you feel 400.00
Is a fair price ?
Thanks in advance for input...
Mike Keirsey
August 20, 2009, 13:22
David Abbe
Michael, Decent appraisal requires a movement picture and a case picture.

The description sounds good for a POSSIBLE $225.00 value A Lincoln, HOWEVER it can be worth more or less depending on several conditions. For example I am a "loving collector" of the Illliois Getty movement (pictured), yet Shugart makes no distinction between 16s Getty Lincoln and (corr.)assorted model 9 Lincoln signed movements. I would value a decent Getty much higher than the more "pedestrian" later 2-winding wheel designs. Sec ond, the "case" can deviate the "collectible value" a great deal depending on Material (14K or "Silveroid"?), case marks being original to the movement, period correctness, and if it is an Illinois-cased job.


August 20, 2009, 13:24
Tom Brown
Mike

Do you have the serial number?

Illinois made two 16s A. Lincolns, one was a model 5 (some refer to as Getty, with only one visible winding wheel & the crescent shaped click) they made a little over 13,000 of these in open face.

The 2nd was a model 9, they made a little over 38,000 open face of these.

I assume you are talking about an open face movement, they did make hunter but those are a lot rarer.

Both should have double sunk enamel dials.

In my opinion $400 is the top price for one so IMHO it would need to be in very nice shape.

What do you others say?

Tom
August 20, 2009, 17:49
Steve Middlesworth
Mike,

I would say $400 is a little steep, It would have to be really nice to get somewhere near that. Nice ones can be had on ebay for the $200-275 range. You can pick up a nice Bunn Special 60 hour for that kind of money.

Steve
August 20, 2009, 18:31
Richard M. Jones
Micheal, I like the A. Lincoln and particularly the Getty movement. I think the price asked is high unless the case is spectacular. Multi- colored gold filled (about new) might make it worth that, or perhaps a BRT or fancy fraternal case, but assuming a good movement in a decent case with good dial $250 would be about all I would go.


Deacon
August 20, 2009, 19:50
Charles A. Buss
Is that you David? Welcome back!


chas
August 22, 2009, 07:52
Michael L. Keirsey
Thank you for the input...Mike