Internet Horology Club 185
Elgin 868 PW Movement

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September 21, 2006, 01:18
Frank Kusumoto
Elgin 868 PW Movement
Thanks to Larry Fure (Thanks Larry!) I acquired this Elgin PW that needed a pallet and hairspring. Here's the picture that Larry sent me before I bought the watch...


September 21, 2006, 01:20
Frank Kusumoto
And now a picture of the watch running! It's a Unitas 6497 movement that Elgin made into their own "grade 868" watch.


September 21, 2006, 06:54
Lawrence Fure
Good job Frank. Did you use the balance that was in the movement and just add the hairspring,or did you end up replacing the whole assembly?


Larry
September 21, 2006, 07:18
Frank Kusumoto
Larry,

I just dropped a balance complete in with pallet fork taken from same movement. The Elgin movement is just gunky enough, especially in the keyless works, to need a cleaning. I used some emery paper to take out some scuffs. Good movement with little variation in positions and has a good beat and amplitude. The tricky thing is there's no pointer or index to move the regulator with, so when setting the rate you have to use a light touch. I was lucky. I hit 18001 on the first adjustment. Of course, it will change after I clean it.

Frank "407"

P.S. - Thanks Larry!!!
September 21, 2006, 16:07
Lawrence Fure
I didn't even take the movement out of the case when I got it.When you get it cleaned up and regulated it will make a great time piece for someone to carry. I have overhauled a few in the past (Waltham) and given them to freinds to carry. They use them every day and they keep good time for them. If they ever drop them I'll have to look you up for staffs. Wink
P.S Your Welcome. Smile


Larry
September 23, 2006, 12:51
Frank Kusumoto
Here's one of the true beauties that started as a 6497. The UT 6497 designation under the balance has been milled out. The typical round head plate screws have been replaced by very nice flat polished screws with a slight bevel. Very classy screw! Similar to the screws on the Elgin "868". Also, the plates have been chamfered around the entire diameter and a mirror polish applied to the 45 degree cut. Last but most surprising is the balance. The balance spokes are of a different shape than any other I have seen. Perhaps a special order? I do not know. This is one of the few pre-1980's movements that started life as a 6497 that has had some true reworking and could almost be considered a sub-calibre.