Internet Horology Club 185
E. Howard N Size Find!

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April 02, 2013, 17:15
Richard M. Jones
E. Howard N Size Find!
I wanted to show our members my E. Howard N Size that I just purchased. Who says you can't find nice things in Small Town Nebraska? This one came from a town about 90 miles North of Omaha & when I first saw it I thought it might be unused. The bail is still stiff & it shows only minimal wear on the 14k E. Howard Case. It does not show any adjustments & I believe it is 17 jewels.

Case Front



Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:16
Richard M. Jones
Case Back

Case Back



Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:16
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Dial

Dial



Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:17
Richard M. Jones
Movement




Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:17
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Stamp




Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:17
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Dust Cover




Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:18
Richard M. Jones
E. Howard Stamp




Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:19
Richard M. Jones
Bail




Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:19
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Hinge




Deacon
April 02, 2013, 17:35
Buster Beck
Mamma !! That's a nice 17J split plate with a correct case and a correct DSD with correct umbrella hands, nice one.

regards,
bb
April 02, 2013, 17:42
Richard M. Jones
Buster, thanks. It is not a really heavy case but it is not thin either. I bought it locally for what I think is about scrap price plus 10%. I did not weigh it . If anyone has an idea of what it might be reasonably valued at in today's market I would like to know. It might even be more collectable than my Hampdens! I never thought I would have one of these in such nice condition, definitely a keeper.


Deacon
April 02, 2013, 18:02
Buster Beck
Well I haven't kept up with their prices too much but Harold will tell you pretty soon Big Grin

Last split plate I had in the 14K EH&Co H/C like yours with the DSD and umbrella hands was a pretty heavy case and I sold it in 2010 for $3K and it had just a tad more wear than yours.

regards,
bb
April 02, 2013, 18:57
Theodore J. Brown Sr.
Hey Deacon, you may want to go out and buy a lottery ticket since you're really on a roll!!! Nice looking Howard.Did you notice the "adjusted" on the balance cock?I thought that Howards had symbols like the deer and hound to show the level of adjustment.That looks like it wasn't carried hardly at all, very nice watch! Regards, Ted.
April 02, 2013, 22:57
Michael Weiford
Wow! Great watch! I agree with Ted, you need to by a lotto ticket. I know it's not all luck but you have to admit Lady Luck has been smiling on you lately.

B.R.
Mike
April 02, 2013, 23:25
Robert V. Jones
Wow Eek nice find being all original in such good condition. I bet it made your day Wink. Best part is we know it wont be headed for the melting pot either.


tymekeeper005
April 03, 2013, 00:45
Evan Patton
Beautiful. Now I just need to figure out how to get adopted by Ed AND you! Wink
April 03, 2013, 01:03
Larry Lamphier
What a beautiful find Deacon!

That beauty belongs back in Boston I think!! Wink

Regards,
Larry
April 03, 2013, 01:18
Mike Hodge
Good guys deserve breaks. Congratulations on a great watch.
April 03, 2013, 14:57
Richard M. Jones
Thanks to all. I will treasure it and the seller took it to a friend of mine who is a jeweler who also buys gold. My jeweler friend would never melt something like that and put the seller in touch with me. I am very grateful! Ted I did not notice the adjusted marking as I thought they had the stag etc. markings and wondered why they were missing.


Deacon
April 03, 2013, 15:49
David Abbe
There is a very informative tutorial on E Howard watches. To find it, just google "adjusted N size e Howard"

Regarding the "Adjusted" markng on Deacon's watch (is Deacon's middle name "Midas"?), I quote the following from that tutorial;

"The level of adjustment affected the prices of Howard movements more than any other single variable [4, Tables II-12 and II-15, and Figure 64; and also 8]. All Howard watch movements were adjusted at least to isochronism. (Isochronism is the quality of rate independent of winding state). Apart from a short run of experimental movements at S# 3,201 [4,14], Howard otherwise began marking the level of adjustment on his watches at, or shortly before S# 10,964. Thereafter, movements adjusted only to isochronism carried either no marking at all, or a hound symbol (after 1885). Movements adjusted to both isochronism and temperature ("HCI") were marked "Heat & Cold" and/or carried a horse symbol (after 1885), and movements fully adjusted to temperature, isochronism and positions [all 6] ("HCI6P") were marked "Adjusted" and (after 1885) carried a dear (stag) symbol."
April 04, 2013, 14:01
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
A real beauty Deacon. I'm glad it did not get melted down.

Harry
April 05, 2013, 14:30
Paul D. Trombley
Holy cow, I think my next vacation is going to be planned out with a map of pawn shops withing a 100 mile radius...

I like the lesson here about nurturing relationships with jewelers and store owners that can call when they have an item of interest.

Great watch Deacon, what great fun.