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Markings on pocket watch case

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November 19, 2012, 19:58
Jon Hart
Markings on pocket watch case
The wing and wheel stamp is a Gold Filled mark, however, this one almost looks like a flower with wings on the side. Could not find below combo in any books.



Thoughts?


November 19, 2012, 20:20
Jon Hart
GF mark, but looks different


November 19, 2012, 20:23
Jon Hart
Not sure on this one


November 19, 2012, 22:10
Evan Patton
Did the Detroit Red Wings make watches? Big Grin
November 20, 2012, 14:18
Richard M. Jones
I think the American Watch Case Co. set up a separate Canadian firm when the Canadian tariffs on non Canadian cases became too high for the American makers to compete. It sure looks like the Fortune marking found on Canadian made cases.


Deacon
November 20, 2012, 17:30
Jon Hart
Richard,

I agree with the American Watch Case Co and Fortune stamp. Do you think the case could be solid or just GF?

Thanks -

Here is the case that goes w/ the above stamp

Smile


November 20, 2012, 21:31
Mike LaForest
I have a trademark index book that identifies this particular winged wheel design as a trademark granted "May 21, 1889 to the Philadelphia Watch Case Co., Philadelphia, PA and Riverside, NJ". Beautiful case!
November 20, 2012, 22:33
Richard M. Jones
My thinking is heavy gold filled. I think if solid it would be so marked under Canadian/English laws in force at the time. Still, it is very nice and you should have it tested. I have it stuck in my mind that the Canadian "made in Canada" laws did not go into force until the late 1890's but I cannot point to any specific reference as to the date. Whoever wound up with the American Watch Case co. trademarks may well have been involved in setting up a Canadian Co. Maybe the Philadelphia people?


Deacon