August 20, 2006, 12:28
Peter S. BalkanHamilton cases and 974's
There's a Hamilton 974 Special, on eBay with (what is probably) a well worn case.
I like the 974 Special and I think it is a "sleeper" that will be appreciated in years to come. (I've restored two.... one with a pristine, "Electric RR" dial.)
In my travels, I've picked up a number of Hamilton cases that came out at the tail-end of the 992 models, remained through the 992E's and were used at the beginning of the 992B's. I like these cases and they make a ho-hum watch into something special.
The 974 Special, on eBay, appears to have a 1933 production date. Although we usually associate the Hamilton cases with the 992 and it's successors, does anyone know if late 974's were also cased (factory) in these cases?
August 20, 2006, 13:56
Robert M. SweetPeter,
It appears from the early catalogues that 974's were sold "movement only" until abt. 1929.
At this point Hamilton started advertising the 974 "Factory Cased Only" as seen in the below 1929 catalog excerpt.
None of the Hamilton catalogues that I have access to, offer an option of "Railroads Cases" for the 974, but do offer an option of railroads dials.
Below is a couple of 974 cases that were offering in the last 20's and late 30's.
Robert
August 20, 2006, 14:02
Robert M. SweetAnd another case that is exactly like the 992B No. 16, but "gold-filled" whereas the No. 16 is "Rolled Gold Plate".
Robert
August 20, 2006, 14:09
Peter S. BalkanThanks Robert. I'm getting a bit less confused but.... as always, there are still exceptions.
Terry Hall very kindly emailed me with similar information but he mentioned that the early 992B's might have come with "B" or "C" cases, for which we don't have actual examples, only descriptions.
Do you know if the "B" case, might have been the GF "Traffic Special" revived.
August 20, 2006, 15:23
Robert M. SweetPeter,
Here is all we know about the Model "B".
We have a empty "B" box (captured from auction) with no watch and a brief discription maybe told by L. Halligan, Sales and Merchandising Mgr. for Hamilton in the late 40's.
We have a lot of conjecture but no real facts.
Hopefully we can put this puzzle together before long.
Robert
August 20, 2006, 15:28
Peter S. BalkanDoesn't this suggest that the "B" cases were just old Traffic Special or "former" cases that were still in stock. The re-order may or may not have actually happened.
Is it "like" Hamilton to simply rename a case for a later model?
Do we have an actual date of that excerpt?
August 20, 2006, 16:14
Robert M. SweetPeter,
Yes, but which one?
Below is the complete sheet excerpt.
This document must have been written sometime after 1949, since the No. 14 (introduced, Oct. 1, 1949) is the last case listed.
Hopefully, Don can give us some insight on the date.
Robert
August 20, 2006, 16:59
Peter S. BalkanAaaaaargh!
Why don't we simplify this and say that the "proper" 1940 case is.....MINE!
