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U.S. Watch Co. Movement

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March 31, 2012, 16:30
Jon Hart
U.S. Watch Co. Movement
The movement is stamped "US Watch Co. #35227" and on the bottom "Waltham Mass"

Anyone have a book that will give a fellow the skinny on this movement?
March 31, 2012, 16:56
Richard M. Jones
Jon look on page 410 of the 2011 Shugart book. I have had several smaller watches made by them and know little of the company other than Keystone bought them around 1905 and I have been told they had Waltham employees but were not related to Waltham.


Deacon
March 31, 2012, 17:28
Mike LaForest
U.S. Watch Co., Waltham (ie not to be confused with U.S. Watch Co., Marion). Produced watches 1884-1896. Had a name change to U.S. Watch Co. Jersey City, NJ. In 1901-1903 sold to Keystone Watch Case Co. Began making a new watch with the name E. Howard Watch Co, Boston, USA in 1905 at the old factory at Waltham, MA. Up until about 1930 they made some fine RR and high grade 12s watches, both of which I collect.

Approx. production dates:
Serial Number Year
3000 1890
400,000 1896
900,000 1902

I have one of US Watch Company Waltham's acid etched watch movements (18 size movement) which are arguably one of the most beautiful movements you will see. My watch came with an American Waltham Watch Company" dial which, I think, is unfortunately the wrong dial. The correct dial would say "United States Watch Company Waltham. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken on the dial. Anyway, I take this opportunity to ask readers here to price me a correct dial if they have a spare.


March 31, 2012, 17:31
Tom Brunton
yikes!!! WHAT A BEAUTY !!!! Eek
March 31, 2012, 18:28
Jared Brinker
Mike-

You are right that it should have a us watch co dial, probably something like the one below. If thats the one that was on ebay, I looked at it and thought about buying it so I had the hunter and open version.

Jared


March 31, 2012, 18:29
Jared Brinker
and they have different patterns in it too. Here is mine.


March 31, 2012, 18:33
Larry Lamphier
Mike, Question.

Would the serial numbers be in the "Serial numbers With Discriptions of WALTHAM WATCH MOVEMENTS" ?

I'm asking because I have one # 105769

Regards,
Larry


March 31, 2012, 18:41
Larry Lamphier
My dial says Waltham on it.


March 31, 2012, 19:16
Jared Brinker
Larry-

Quick answer is no, it is a completely seperate company.

Jared
March 31, 2012, 19:19
Larry Lamphier
Thanks Jared.

That means that I have mind marked wrong as I used the serial number from the waltham book.

Regards,
Larry
March 31, 2012, 19:22
Jared Brinker
Larry-

That would be correct.

Jared
March 31, 2012, 20:42
Mike LaForest
I concur with Jared.... US Watch Company Waltham is not the same as American Waltham Watch Co. And Larry, it looks like your dial is correct from your picture. I have a set of fleur de lis hands - all I need is the correct dial to go with them. I hope I don't have to buy a watch to find it.
March 31, 2012, 20:48
Mike LaForest
Jared, your acid etched dial is a beaut. I wasn't sure if it was nickle or gold. Sometimes incandescent light make things look gold when they are nickel silver color.
I wonder.... are acid etched dials "hand-made" and therefore all technically different? Damaskeening like we usually think of it is done with machines.
March 31, 2012, 21:19
Brian C.
Mike, I have an 18s dial signed U.S Watch Co. Waltham. If you still need one, e-mail me.