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Recent Purchase "Help with Identification"

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October 14, 2011, 07:40
Skip Glascock
Recent Purchase "Help with Identification"
American Walthan Watch Co, Need help to dertermine model and value.

Thanks in advance


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Skip Glascock
2nd


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Skip Glascock
3


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4


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Skip Glascock
5


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Skip Glascock
6


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7


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8


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9 and last


October 14, 2011, 09:52
Gareth Evans
If the serial number is 3675931 ( can't quite see ) this comes up as -

Royal (Model 1884)
Adjusted
Size 14
13 Jewels
Run of 300 1 Sep - 31 Oct 1888
October 14, 2011, 16:16
Skip Glascock
Thanks Gareth

You are right about the serial number. I looked in Shugart 2011 and thought it was a Chronograph, 13 j, m#1884,OF, Didn't see a run of 300, That sounds good.

I don't see a Royal under s 14. What's the difference between a Chronograph and a Royal.

I only see a Royal under s16.
Skip
October 14, 2011, 16:53
Lindell V. Riddle

Hi Skip,

Gareth is entirely correct, that is a 14-size Waltham "1884-Model" from 1888 production. One of the most interesting points on these is their unusual size, that movement fits only those specially made cases. Many of them were originally housed in Solid-Gold cases and when those are gone finding a replacement is nearly impossible. It is not especially valuable but certainly very worthwhile watch to collect.

Your watch is listed on page 130 of the 2011 Complete Guide to Watches as "Royal, 11-13-15 Jewels, Model 1874, 1884" under the 14-size section. Yours is not a "Chronograph" as you will see when comparing your watch to the Chronograph images shown in that same section.

Hope this of further help.

Lindell

Wink

October 14, 2011, 18:37
Skip Glascock
Thanks guys,

Gareth were did you find the production numbers?

Thanks Lindell, I should have but turned the page and I would have found it.

All well, I think the case looks cool.

Thanks again.

Skip
October 15, 2011, 15:48
Gareth Evans
This link is a Searchable Database created from the Waltham handwritten production ledgers.

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Administrative Note:

Many helpful links are provided right here...

Click: Technical Library, Serial Numbers and Site Links

And that includes the Waltham link in question...

Direct Link: Waltham Movement Numbers

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October 18, 2011, 09:23
Skip Glascock
Gareth,

Thanks very much for all of your help.

Skip