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Beautiful 950 ELINVAR!!!

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November 22, 2010, 00:40
Larry Lamphier
Beautiful 950 ELINVAR!!!
I just had to share this with all the 950E lovers here.
This is one of the most beautiful 950E ELINVAR Hamiltons that i have seen and worked on.

To take a watch like this one apart and clean/oil it is such a pleasure!! You just realize the QUALITY that was put into a movement like this!

The Case the same thing! It is just Beautiful.

So I want to share some pictures with you!! Smile


November 22, 2010, 00:46
Larry Lamphier
The movement!!

I left a case screw out so you can see that it lines up so perfect! But it's to hard to see. Maybe I'll take a close up in the morning.

Think I'll be more like PHIL!! and try to get to bed earlier!!! Wink

I never realized that there were FOUR plates.
Look at the screws, there are NINE of them!!

I also noticed that every part had the serial number on it. Not just the larger ones, but every plate, the balance, the balance cock, just every part!


November 22, 2010, 00:48
Larry Lamphier
Then the case.

I thought I saw something on here about this Hamilton Mainliner case.

Maybe someone can shed some light on this. Smile


November 22, 2010, 00:51
Larry Lamphier
The inside of the back cover.

I think I need to work on the pictures. But you can see what I'm talking about I think.

Movement 2640959 in Hamilton Mainliner case number 1203686


November 22, 2010, 00:55
Larry Lamphier
Well I hope you like it. I know I really had a lot of fun doing it!!

Regards,
Larry


November 22, 2010, 06:41
Phillip Sanchez
Great job, Larry and a beautiful watch.
That's what snipe bids are for so you can get to bed early. Big Grin
November 22, 2010, 11:19
Eric Unselt
Beautiful piece, Larry. Your pics look great.

It is fun taking 'em apart, ain't it? Cool
November 22, 2010, 11:24
Larry Lamphier
Thanks Phil and Eric!

Yes I really enjoy taking them apart Eric. You look at some of them, and they just look a mess. Then when you take the parts out of the cleaner they just shine, and I can't wait to get it back together and wind it up to watch it take off again!! Smile

Regards,
Larry
November 22, 2010, 11:26
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.
Good going Larry, a very nice example of a cool watch. Cool


Best Regards,

Ed
November 22, 2010, 11:28
Buster Beck
Nice one Larry Smile

As to the case, it is an original Hamilton Mainliner. They are seldom seen today and most you see will be the close J. Boss Railroad case that will not be a signed Hamilton case.

There is one slight problem though......................................

It's not in my collection Eek

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

regards,
bb
November 22, 2010, 12:25
Jerry King
Great Job Larry, you have yourself quite a nice example of one of the most sought after Models....

Great pictures as well, you are doing a great job....Keep it up...!

Regards,

Jerry
November 22, 2010, 17:10
Lindell V. Riddle

Larry's watch is not only good-looking, it is a dead-on original that fits with other correct examples.

As background, the movement and case combination which would become known correctly described as the "Hamilton 950 Mainliner Elinvar" was introduced in 1937 and it would continue to be available each successive year through 1940-41 production. After which point, beginning late in 1941 the 950E would be replaced with the 950B as an entirely new watch based on the 992B design.

Knowledgeable collectors prefer these watches to be configured as Larry's is, with the number 532 dial and baton hands, however they were available with other dials and the movements also came in models 2, 8, 10, 11 and A cases. It is most important to recognize the "Hamilton Mainliner" is a very specific case with very specific Hamilton markings inside the case-backs, be careful not to confuse other similar looking cases with these and always compare numbers on case-back, frame and bezel.


Here are a few correct examples...

2611552 in Mainliner Case 1071323

2612158 in Mainliner Case 1071102

2618348 in Mainliner Case 1071112 (Boxed Set)

2638940 in Mainliner Case 1203506

2639170 in Mainliner Case 1194377

2640299 from 1940 in Mainliner Case 1203524 (Hang Tag)

2640959 in Mainliner Case 1203686 <<< Larry's watch

2649747 produced in 1941 with Mainliner Case number 1203564


We will never know how many of the 7,000 Hamilton 950 Elinvar movements produced were cased and sold as "Hamilton 950 Mainliner Elinvar" watches but it was likely a small percentage. Unfortunately the "Mainliner" cases use the same numbering as other Keystone cases of the same period, that makes it difficult, but the numbers for these are rather closely clustered together which may have meaning. Wink Anyhow, we should remember, with any collectible stay with the "known-to-be-correct" item as it will increase in value.


These are the ONLY real Hamilton Mainliner case-back markings...


November 22, 2010, 19:49
Bill Goff
Nice One Larry.
November 23, 2010, 13:50
Larry Lamphier
Thank you to everyone!! Smile

Thank you Lindell, as always you bring out the true facts in a way that is easy to understand, and in a way that we can refer back to the info that you take the time to put up for us.

I'm sure I speak for everyone, when I say that, it is MUCH appreciated and, Thank YOU!!! Smile

Regards,
Larry
November 23, 2010, 18:53
Richard Romero
Nice looking watch Larry,
Keep up the great work. The Mainliner still remains on my wish list, maybe someday. It's great to see nice examples like yours. I've bid on a couple and lost as well as past on others due to condition. Come to think of it I've offered more for the Mainliner than any other watch.
Congrats and enjoy,
RR
November 23, 2010, 22:02
Larry Lamphier
Thanks Richard.

I wish they could all look this one, but it seems to be almost a loosing proposition at times.
But we keep trying!! Smile

Regards,
Larry
November 23, 2010, 22:23
Buster Beck
Alright Alright Are you ready for a little story then Confused
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The Little Engine that Could is a children's story that appeared in the United States of America. The book is used to teach children the value of optimism and hard work. Some critics would contend that the book is a metaphor for the American dream.

In the tale, a long train must be pulled over a high mountain. Various larger engines, treated anthropomorphically, are asked to pull the train; for various reasons they refuse. The request is sent to a small engine, who agrees to try. The engine succeeds in pulling the train over the mountain while repeating its motto: "I-think-I-can".
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So keep on pulling Larry, Tom, Bill, Buster, Dick, Harry, Mary, together we can/will make a difference Smile

regards,
bb


November 24, 2010, 00:15
Larry Lamphier
I LIKE that Buster!!

THANK YOU! Smile

Regards,
Larry