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Help with identifing this watch

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June 13, 2012, 12:58
Steven A. Cohen
Help with identifing this watch
Hi all,

A freind gave me her fathers pocketwatrch to look at (see pictures below). It feels like a dollar watch to me but it has no markings except the number 69 on the movement. Nothing on the paper dial. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

The movement



Steve Cohen
June 13, 2012, 12:59
Steven A. Cohen
paper dial




Steve Cohen
June 13, 2012, 13:01
Steven A. Cohen
Back




Steve Cohen
June 13, 2012, 13:04
Bill Manders
Hi Steven,
Looks like a Westclox or Ingraham. The 69 often denotes the year of manufacture.
Bill
June 13, 2012, 13:11
Steven A. Cohen
Thanks Bill, Is there any way to tell for sure? I just want to give my friend the right information.


Steve Cohen
June 13, 2012, 13:14
David Abbe
Judging from the style of the balance cock, this is either a Swiss "dollar" watch or (by the platework) "Smith's" (English). It looks pretty well made. A better look at the movement would speak volumes about the escapement. If it is pin-lever that could be more collectible.

I could find no smiths movment that looks like this so I would bet it is Swiss.

Probably will keep running for a very long time. . .
June 13, 2012, 13:29
Steven A. Cohen
Thanks Dave, I thought maybe swiss but I don't know. is this picture better?




Steve Cohen
June 13, 2012, 13:33
Steven A. Cohen
or this?




Steve Cohen
June 13, 2012, 16:39
Richard M. Jones
Hi Steve, About 50 years ago I was working for Montgomery Wards and was a pocket watch nut even in those days. I was friends with the jewelry salesman and asked him if the "dollar" watches were Westclock and he told me that they had them imported from Switzerland . We always called them farmer watches because a lot of farmers carried them as they were not an expensive loss if they went into the stock tank or manure pile. Actually there was a fairly steady demand for them and I don't recall if Wards had their logo on them. I will say they were rugged and not to bad on keeping time. I would guess yours is Swiss also.


Deacon
June 13, 2012, 17:22
Andy Schwartz
I have seen and sold 500 usa made dollar watches. I have never seen a usa with a brass tone movement like this. I would say swiss as well.
June 14, 2012, 07:12
Steven A. Cohen
Thanks Deacon and Andy, I agree that this is a swiss dollar watch and it makes sense that it could have been imported for Montgomery Wards. Thanks all for your help on this. what a great group to be a part of!


Steve Cohen
June 14, 2012, 10:25
Richard M. Jones
Steve one other thought is that on the Wards watches there was a paper warranty in the box they came in and that said you could order another watch face if yours was damaged, i.e. fell in the manure, and the cost was something like 25 cents. can't remember exactly.


Deacon
June 14, 2012, 11:49
Steven A. Cohen
Thanks Deacon, very interesting, I don't know the history here but I will ask. the box and papers are long gone but itcould be a replacement dial but I wouldn't know how to tell.


Steve Cohen