June 01, 2013, 13:46
Jon HartT.F. Cooper Pocket Watch
Really interesting movement...
Open Face movement in a triple hinge Silver case
June 01, 2013, 13:46
Jon Hart2 - Love the Balance wheel -
June 01, 2013, 17:45
Andy Schwartzwhat is amazing is this was done so many years ago by hand and the man doing it was thrilled to have the job.
June 01, 2013, 20:13
Jon HartGlad someone likes it besides me

Probably not as exciting as one of those 300 per week listings of either a 992 or bunn on ebay

June 01, 2013, 20:18
Peter KaszubskiWOW look at the hand work, balance wheel,mainspring cover
I have one 7 jewel watch and I will try to make it as sceleton watch wish me luck and copy yours Jon a bit.
June 01, 2013, 20:26
Bila WirriganwaltersGreat looking watch Jon, I like this type very much, I had a Fleury pocket watch (not a Fleurier)a couple of years back that was very similar, the brother loved it more than I did so I end up giving it to him.
Best Regards,
Bila
June 01, 2013, 20:41
Andy SchwartzJon, I use a line in my ads... when a watch is art - this movement is amazing, I love them, it is a watch but it really is a sculpture and you do not see these in "salesman" cases so it is really only meant for the owner to see. They fascinate me.
June 01, 2013, 21:23
Peter KaszubskiAndy is right its an art and sculpture.
June 01, 2013, 21:45
Jon HartThere is life here

Andy - you hit it spot on - a work of art... Can you image someone today with the tools they used back then to create something this beautiful...
June 02, 2013, 00:51
Tom BruntonChinese market duplexes are a thing of beauty and many are in the same style of decoration as this lovely model

June 02, 2013, 10:05
Paul J. WilliamsEven with a skilled worker this must have taken long time to complete. Very nice
June 02, 2013, 11:44
Gerald ZimmermannHi Jon
A very nice watch showing one facet of the history of pocket watches and a collectible for those who love old pocket watches as windows to past times (not so much for the investors)
The watch is swiss(or france) made ca.1870, the name T. F. Cooper (a reputated british watchmaker) was missused to simulate a british origin (same thing as with 'Tobias' watches)
The scrimsaw and engraving had the same intention as the damascening on american watches - a visual upgrade. For earlier and more simple examples it is said the decoration took one day's work.
The decoration looks like flames and shows that the watch was intented to the oriental (chinese) buyer but it is not a 'chinese duplex' watch, it has a club tooth escapement wheel and a counter-poised right angle lever. The jewel count is up to 15 (if the dial side was jeweled the same way).
Thanks for showing and please add a picture of the dial side and the caseback.
regards
Gerald
June 02, 2013, 17:17
Andy SchwartzOne of the things that fascinates me is the fact that watches were made with amazing complications 100-200 years before a car was made. The science and beauty of 1700 - 1800 verge fusees is amazing.
June 02, 2013, 18:12
Jon HartGerald,
Thanks for the information... Agree totally the movement is not a chinese duplex. Here is a quick pic of the dial.
The balance wheel has a bit of play and probably a pivot bent/broken. The last staff, I had specially made ran close to 100$ mostly in labor to create it on the lathe. Therefore, wondering if this one is worth saving. Any input from the board is welcome?
Thanks
Jon