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Hamilton 080 Porcelain Dial -- Common Application? "Click" to Login or Register 
Picture of Paul Adams
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I have a 992-B from 1946, S/N C169166, in a 1946 No. 3 Wadsworth Two-Tone Case, S/N H814655, with a Porcelain 080 Dial on it.

Hamilton 992, 992E, and 992B Case & Dial Identification. (1924-1971) shows this is a 992-B style dial.

Is this appropriate for this watch and case?

CAMERA BATTERY JUNKED! Will Post Pictures as soon as I can get a new one from WallyWorld.
 
Posts: 181 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2008
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Paul, I have included a page from the 1946 Hamilton Catalog which shows one of the 992Bs with a 080 (HG)dial. The bottom line of the text in the upper left says "Choice of dials shown", so I assume you could order any of the models with the dial of your choice.

1946 catalog pg for 992B
 
Posts: 346 | Location: Woodland Hills, California in the USA | Registered: January 07, 2011
Picture of Paul Adams
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Thanks Robert! That Catalog Page sure clinches it! The No. 12 cased watch in the lower left is exactly what an 080 Dial is. Straightline Hamilton Signature. Sort of like the 151 which also uses the same signature "HAMILTON," but is Melamine with the Straightline Signature. The 080 is Porcelain.

Although I hate to admit it, I have not connected the dots on this one until now. Plainly, the 151 is an acceptable 992-B dial during the Melamine age, and it now appears the 080 was acceptable up until the Melamine age. For some reason I think I pretty much believed in the back of my mind the 992-B's ALL had "Railway Special" marked Dials. . . even though I knew of the 151.

Now, Are there any other "Straightline HAMILTON" dials that came from the Factory on 992-B's? Anybody have any examples. Will Post Pictures of this watch tomorrow.
 
Posts: 181 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2008
IHC Member 1357
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Paul,great post!I do have 3 with only HAMILTON
marked dials.One is the 151 dial,one is the 082
dial and the other is the 024 dial(enamel).I will not post the #151 pic.since it is already in the
thread.
 
Posts: 4088 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
IHC Member 1357
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Dial 024 enamel Movement C52473=1942

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Posts: 4088 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
IHC Member 1357
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Dial 082 Melamine Movement C360845=1952
Need a seconds hand for this one.

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Posts: 4088 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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S/N C169166, in a 1946 No. 3 Wadsworth Two-Tone Case, S/N H814655
Got New Camera Battery, looks like I should have got a new camera.

 
Posts: 181 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2008
Picture of Paul Adams
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Thanks Very Much, Roger! Nice Looking Watches NOT often seen in these configurations!

Interesting to see these 992-B's considered the Finest Railroad Watches ever Made, (Arguably), sporting "Hamilton Straightline" marked Dials instead of the Commonly expected "Railway Special" Dials from the Factory.

Anybody else wish to Add their Straightline Hamilton dial on their 992-B? Please do so! I think this is an interesting "variation" which is not often noted or seen for what its worth.
 
Posts: 181 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2008
IHC Member 1357
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s/n C291845=1950 Melamine dial #151

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Posts: 4088 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Paul,

Another thing to consider is the fact the dial you inquired about is single sunk. Typically higher quality watches were fitted with double sunk dials and single sunk dials are used on lesser quality movements.

When the 992B was introduced the dials were double sunk and signed RWS. Early 992B movements should not have the 080 dial. Shortly after Hamilton was having difficulties producing the double sunk dials and decided to use single sunk versions. For some reason there were a limited number of single sunk dials used that are signed RWS and the majority of them ended up only being signed Hamilton.

The 090 and 525 dials were also used on the 992B and they are not signed RWS.

Below is a Hamilton document showing the different dial part numbers.

RR

Hamilton document from 1941.

 
Posts: 1413 | Location: Fremont, California in the USA | Registered: February 06, 2010
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I got into it with someone once he said the Model #10 cases were only used with 992 Elinvars. This ad proves different.


Tom Dunn...
TIME MACHINE
www.myrailroadwatch.com
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Posts: 3052 | Location: Ramsey, Illinois in the USA | Registered: December 15, 2008
Picture of Paul Adams
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More Great Information! It wasn't "smooth sailin'" for the 992-B Railroad Specials during the 40's apparently.

Notice that the Above Pictures are all "Single Sunk" dials! Not one is Double Sunk although they are on 992-B Movements and all Conform to the Hamilton Memo about Dials, also.

It also appears that given all this, a "Double Sunk Dial" would NOT necessarily mean it was a mark o a "High Grade" watch. These "High Grade" 992-B's were Factory Fitted with Single Sunk Dials.

Sure adds some diversification to what really went on. Thanks again, guys!
 
Posts: 181 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2008
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