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Ball Marked "SINGLE ROLLER" 18s Watches "Click" to Login or Register 
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Hello, I found this at the bottom of some old standard gauge Lionel Trains I bought today at the swap meet. While search to see what it was that I had found I came across this wonderful site. It's # 170162.

 
Posts: 3 | Location: San Diego, California in the USA | Registered: April 14, 2013
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Here's the movement.

 
Posts: 3 | Location: San Diego, California in the USA | Registered: April 14, 2013
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Randy,
It's a Hamilton Ball, 150,000 produced, but only 1,000 in 1901 when this was produced according to the online database.

Movement Serial Number:170162
Estimated Production Year: 1901
Run Quantity: 1000
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Model: 0
Movement Setting: Lever
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Positions: 6
Railroad Grade: Yes
Notes: Ball
 
Posts: 1003 | Location: Pleasanton, California in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2012
IHC Member 328
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Randy & Evan

Actual run quanity was 300, 170101-170400. Its an 18 sz Single Roller Double Sunk Ball & Co. The only other place you see these is in the 90xxx run.

90220

wonderful find,

Congrats & happy hunting
 
Posts: 888 | Location: Arroyo Grande, California USA | Registered: February 22, 2004
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I'll defer to Bill as the online database I used is often notoriously inaccurate, and I am still learning.
 
Posts: 1003 | Location: Pleasanton, California in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2012
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It would make a nice addition to anyone's collection. Give us a heads up if you decide to put it on ebay or want to sell it here or anyplace else.

happy hunting
 
Posts: 888 | Location: Arroyo Grande, California USA | Registered: February 22, 2004
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I want to thank everyone for the info, and if I do decide to let it go it will be posted here first.
 
Posts: 3 | Location: San Diego, California in the USA | Registered: April 14, 2013
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Please add # 90557 17J
Marked: Adjusted and Single Roller
Ball & Co. Official RR Standard double sunk dial with inscription at 6'oclock.(small chip)

Hamilton display case


I need a regulator whip spring and screws if someone has a spare or source.

 
Posts: 84 | Location: Plano, Texas in the USA | Registered: July 28, 2013
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movement

 
Posts: 84 | Location: Plano, Texas in the USA | Registered: July 28, 2013
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Richard,

Thank you for providing your movement number.

You will see it in the database compiled at the beginning of this topic.

One of the great features of IHC185 Membership is the ability to participate in our BUY AND SELL HERE, THE IHC185™ TRADING MART where you can ask for parts.

Please do consider becoming a full member!

Debbie

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Posts: 4863 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
IHC Member 328
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Richard

I only follow the Ball and Co Watches so am not sure what happens with the Ball Watch Co after serial #170400.

There are 300 DS Single Roller between 170101-170400.
Another 150 between 90600-90750

And approx. 100-150 of them scattered in between 90201-90600. In this run, the ones that aren't marked Single Roller are marked "A" and Adjusted.

If you want to sell, you can [join IHC and sell it here.]

Otherwise, enjoy your watch and

happy hunting
 
Posts: 888 | Location: Arroyo Grande, California USA | Registered: February 22, 2004
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One of the great features of IHC185 Membership is the ability to participate in our

BUY AND SELL HERE, THE IHC185™ TRADING MART where you can ask for parts, buy, sell or trade.

Please do consider becoming a full member!


Dr. Deborah L. Irvine
IHC Administrative Assistant
Membership and Marts Coordinator

Contact eMail: ihc185@roadrunner.com

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Posts: 4863 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
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pics of my 18s single roller...

 
Posts: 312 | Location: New Jersey in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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dial without bezel, no hairlines. both hands are plum in color with some tarnish.

 
Posts: 312 | Location: New Jersey in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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movement

 
Posts: 312 | Location: New Jersey in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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rear case cover

 
Posts: 312 | Location: New Jersey in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
IHC Member 328
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Joseph

What a sweet example! Amazing how well some of these have survived.


happy huntijng
 
Posts: 888 | Location: Arroyo Grande, California USA | Registered: February 22, 2004
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Came across this ball in a lot I got. Serial number is 170218. Single roller marked BALL & CO CLEVELAND. I know nothing about these watches. The case is a STURDY NICKEL SILVER. THE dial is a double sunk HAMILTON dial. Is this not the orginal case or dial? Interested in any info on this. Also not in the data base.

Pictures are below
 
Posts: 3 | Location: Vermont in the USA | Registered: November 03, 2014
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Ball

[Movement number: 170218]

 
Posts: 3 | Location: Vermont in the USA | Registered: November 03, 2014
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Ball 170218

 
Posts: 3 | Location: Vermont in the USA | Registered: November 03, 2014
IHC Member 328
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Joe

It is definitely the wrong dial, Ball watches did not come with Hamilton marked dials. It should look like the first dial in this topic on Lindell's movement 170162 that shows the correct dial.

The replacement style case you have is of a much later issue than the movement.

happy hunting
 
Posts: 888 | Location: Arroyo Grande, California USA | Registered: February 22, 2004
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